I haven't had their coffee in a while, but I still have (and use) the little blade grinder that came with the Community Coffee subscription that my mom got for me some 30+ years ago before there was as much good coffee around everywhere as there is now. Peet's was just barely outside the bay area, and well before starbucks hit the upper midwest. Some time after I got the subscription and grinder and had moved to MSP, I was in a coffee shop watching some guy who seemed to be in town for a grad school interview who couldn't get the right size coffee because he kept saying "tall" and the barista of the local shop kept trying to give him a 20 oz cup.