In that thread I found this interesting nugget:
Originally Posted by FlyerTim
Some thoughts:
3. As is the case with most things, fleeing to UA will only prove to be a temporary reprieve - UA is also planning to rollout a new J cabin (and will probably eliminate F on its 763s as well), and will therefore likely abolish its international upgrade welfare state as well.
A new J cabin? Has this been mentioned before?
Elimination of F on three-class 767-300's? Did I miss this?
And what is this "welfare state"? This sounds like 'avek-speak' to me?