Originally Posted by spin88

It depend upon what you consider "pessimistic" I see proactively requiring everything possible safety wise including masks and promising and actually delivering less crowding (which requires a larger schedule) as being realistic and future focused. I see cramming as many people into planes as possible, cutting even where it requires filled planes, and not requiring masks (so as "not to upset people") as a bad case of whistling past the grave yard, hoping it all goes away quickly.

The contrast between United and say Costco, which upset the markets by saying up front they would spend a bucket of money to changes stores, etc to address social distancing, and also require masks from everyone, no exceptions, and is now looking good (and just feels very safe to go to) as covid-19 drags on and say United airlines is just night and day.

Delta/Alaska, not perfect, but a whole lot better.

United/American just made themselves a lot more enemies over the last few months and if they want congress to pony up more $$$, well good luck.