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Old May 8, 2020, 11:54 am
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Originally Posted by Smiley90
Your turn to provide facts with a claim - how many deaths are predicted due to malnutrition and starvation in the US due to furloughs/layoffs? Compared to COVID19 deaths? How many of those deaths are entirely preventable with government subsidies?

I'd predict "people will die from starvation" to be extreme fearmongering with no evidence - unlike C19 that people are actually dying from.

If people (like FlyBitcoin) just made the argument that X deaths / job are acceptable, I'd understand that argument - albeit I'd disagree. But claiming "people are gonna starve to death" is nonsense.
Start with this Google search: what are the negative effects of unemployment on health
Then compare the depth and duration of this, multiplied by the number of people involved in unemployment (now 40 million in US) and compare to the 900,000+ cases where it lasts 2-3 weeks, recovery and no hospitalization.
Yes there are 70k deaths at an average lost life expectancy of almost 10 years each, but that number excludes the morbidity of living with the preexisting conditions, so could be more like 8 years. Still the 900,000 needs to be factored in with the 70,000.

2,500 teens age 16-19 die in MVA's yearly which is 75,000 over 30 years. We accept that as a society and don't blink and eyelash. One large scale pandemic over 30 years and we are at the same threshold at this point in time. CV-19 deaths will rise, but the next wave will have already known it is out there and how to mitigate it to some degree. Yet the collateral damage of job loss and lost business value does not happen with the teen drivers. That is at zero, not 40 million x 6-60 months.
It is hard outcomes to compare and I am not saying it is a perfect comparison, but it is one way we as a society value a life with 60 years left vs a life with 8-10 years left), nor am I diminishing the effects of the virus, but the point is that there is a balance here and taking the derivative of the numbers now needs to help steer us slightly until we have our next set of numbers.
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