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Old Mar 29, 2020 | 6:02 pm
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RedChili
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Originally Posted by Fredrik74
It's you and not me that want to use this study and you have mentioned 50% yourself. I'm merely pointing out what needs to be done if there really is 50% infected or more.

I also see how you also quote Ioannidis who see much less infected than the Oxford study.

What both studies give you is a low fatality number. So why are most of Europe locked down? It's clear you want to stop any measures now and go back to normal. That won't happen when healthcare is overwhelmed and people are dying. Maybe your parents are still young but mine are uncomfortable with us visiting during Easter and I'm equally uncomfortable because I for sure don't want to be the one that kill them.
My point is that most European polticians have based their lockdown decisions on the extreme alarmist study made by Imperial College, while there are many other experts that paint a totally different picture of the situation. After the Imperial study was made public, a lot of people panicked while believing that the science is settled, that covid-19 is Armageddon and the end of the world.

My point is that it could be the other way around: That it's our panicked reaction to covid-19 which is causing an Armageddon in the long run. I think that Ioannidis summed up the European lockdown very well when he said: "It’s like an elephant being attacked by a house cat. Frustrated and trying to avoid the cat, the elephant accidentally jumps off a cliff and dies."

My mother is in her 90s, so I've got close relatives in the risk group, too. But even if I myself would be in the high risk group, I would still give the same arguments.

So far in life, I've found out that the virus of unfounded fear being spread by the news media is the worst virus there is. It often causes irrational behavior. Since we're on a frequent flyer forum here, one example of this is married couples that see TV programs about airplane accidents and decide that they won't fly in the same airplane when going on vacation, because they don't want their kids to become orphans if the plane is crashing. But they have no problems riding in the same taxi to the airport, although the statistical likelihood of being killed in a traffic accident is much higher than an airplane accident.
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