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Old Mar 7, 2020 | 6:38 am
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Originally Posted by helvetic
Your counterpoint is nonsensical. It doesn't counter anything. The fact that Cambodia reports 1 case only says absolutely nothing about TW, SG, or HK.

For the record, I live in HK, and spend a significant amount of my time in SG.

I can tell you from personal experience that these two places are far more thorough when it comes to reporting, testing, contact tracing, and in general being methodical about their approaches to managing the crisis. Singapore in particular makes evident how accurate their counts are through the transparent reports, where you can generally see clear links between cases, where each case leads to aggressive contact tracing, and where most discovered growth comes from such methodical follow-up and not random people showing up at hospitals.

You can't walk into many buildings without having your temperature taken, without leaving contact information in case they need to trace you, or without filling a declaration of travel, symptoms, etc.

That a random third world country reports a single case has absolutely nothing to do with that.

If you have any evidence that they're making up all their transparent reporting or that it's somehow invalid — please bring it to the table. Don't bring random third world countries with little infrastructure and a completely different situations into it.
I think you’re missing my point completely. Cambodia is a useful example of how the number of cases can bear no relation at all to the likely number of infected people, simply because not many tests are being done. That has nothing at all to do with transparency. There are undoubtedly plenty of people in HK who have the virus (or previously had it) and were never counted, not because of any lack of transparency but simply because they never became a “case” by seeking medical assistance.

With some estimates of minor/asymptomatic infection up around 80% of infected people it should be quite easy to understand how the case count can have little to do with the number of infected people, with the ratio between those numbers varying between countries not based on transparency but simply based on how much testing they’re doing, making comparing case counts between countries rather a pointless exercise.

for what it’s worth I also live in HK and am in SG most weeks, though I’m not sure why you brought that up?
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