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Old Mar 7, 2020 | 6:24 am
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helvetic
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Originally Posted by bobbytables
I’m bringing it up because it’s a counterpoint. They are not blocking anyone, and their count is 1.

The counts are the number of people who have a) been tested and b) tested positive. Cambodia undoubtedly has many infected people, but since (a) never happens, they’re not counted. However, it’s not correct to say that the count is inaccurate. The count is of cases, and without a test you don’t have a case.

How much door-to-door testing do you think they’re doing in HK? anecdotally, from what I and friends have seen, I’d say close to none. Community spread is not necessarily easily detected in a virus that is mostly benign in terms of symptoms. Therefore, number of cases may well be significantly less than number of infections. That doesn’t make the number inaccurate. It’s accurately reporting cases.
Your counterpoint is nonsensical. It doesn't counter anything. The fact that Cambodia reports 1 case only says absolutely nothing about TW, SG, or HK.

For the record, I live in HK, and spend a significant amount of my time in SG.

I can tell you from personal experience that these two places are far more thorough when it comes to reporting, testing, contact tracing, and in general being methodical about their approaches to managing the crisis. Singapore in particular makes evident how accurate their counts are through the transparent reports, where you can generally see clear links between cases, where each case leads to aggressive contact tracing, and where most discovered growth comes from such methodical follow-up and not random people showing up at hospitals.

You can't walk into many buildings without having your temperature taken, without leaving contact information in case they need to trace you, or without filling a declaration of travel, symptoms, etc.

That a random third world country reports a single case has absolutely nothing to do with that.

If you have any evidence that they're making up all their transparent reporting or that it's somehow invalid — please bring it to the table. Don't bring random third world countries with little infrastructure and a completely different situations into it.
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