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Old Dec 2, 2019 | 12:37 pm
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Originally Posted by jsloan
Nobody’s saying that. The A380 and 747 both run 10-abreast even today. However, they were both designed to do so. The L1011, like the B777, was not.

747 cabin width: 20 feet, 1 inch
A380 cabin width: 21 feet, 6 inches
777 cabin width: 19 feet, 3 inches
L1011 cabin width: 18 feet, 11 inches

That sounds... dreadful.
And apparently as early as 1981 airlines were doing that - this article is a gem. You could print it today, reduce the inches by one or two, change the model names and it's entirely accurate.

https://www.nytimes.com/1981/05/24/t...-reshaped.html

"When the Lockheed L-1011 first went into service in the early 1970's, most airlines started using it with eight economy-class passengers in each row. But as time passed, James W. Ragsdale, chief spokesman for Lockheed California, the Lockheed division that builds the L-1011, says, ''airlines decided they needed higher-density seating, so what you see today typically on L-1011's - or DC 10's, which are similar - is nine abreast in the economy cabin. And some airlines use 10 abreast; there is room for that, though the seats are a little narrower.''"

And the slim lines were a thing back then
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A McDonnell Douglas executive notes that ''with the newer, less bulky seats, you might get as much legroom with 32-inch pitch as you would with 34-inch pitch.''

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I don't know where it is but came across an article post Delta's purchase of the PanAm routes that it reconfigured one type of widebody because PanAm had an overly dense layout.
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