Actually TSAMGR it DOES matter here. It was agreed that they use of the word "rape" in the context of a gate screening negated the feelings of woman ( and or men) that had actually been raped and was an insult to all of them ( and no I have not been raped). The discussion took place in late 2001 when someone first used the term "gate rape". At that time the original poster of that thread was actually kind enough to ask the adminstration to change the thread title so I have no clue how I would find it at this point.