Thanks to both of you for your replies. The big operative in having him lend me his code is “if” . If it’s for sure, great but I don’t want to be the guinea pig and end up in China and it not working. I read a few blogs and there use to be some workarounds but I guess things are clearly changing. My travel isn’t until early September so I have some time to work it out. I hope those guinea pigs arrive :-)