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Old Feb 15, 2019, 3:54 pm
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WHBM
 
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Originally Posted by Seat 2A
a time line of the winter of 1986....

2. Since Air Jamaica retired its DC-8s, the big four engine jetliner has been a rare sight at Montego Bay’s Sangster International Airport. These days MBJ is served by a single daily D8S and you’re about to board it! Which airline are you flying and where are you flying to?
The airline we're looking for was not from North America or Europe. It probably wasn't Africa, either...
Well there aren't a lot of places left. Almost all tourism at Montego Bay is from North America and Europe, and if the flight is daily I'll guess it was headed elsewhere, with a stop here.

Aero Peru had a number of Super DC8s at the time. Could we guess at them doing Miami-Montego Bay-Lima. Just a single daily flight though. Did they only serve it in one direction ?

Edinburgh from your home in Amsterdam. You call KLM who politely informs you that they don’t fly from Amsterdam to Edinburgh...... Air UK operated two flights in each direction most days
When I was at university in Edinburgh in the 1970s this routing was operated somewhat differently. British Caledonian operated a couple of daily flights with One-Elevens, one was Glasgow-Newcastle-Amsterdam, the other was Edinburgh-Newcastle-Copenhagen, and at Newcastle there was a very small scissors hub, where the two aircraft stood alongside and passengers were interchanged as necessary.

Air UK, and the supplier of the One-Elevens used temporarily here, British Island, had a convoluted history. Long before, British United had been built up from various mergers and was principally owned by deep sea shipping companies. When British Caledonian was formed, which appears to be a merger of BUA and Caledonian, it was actually these companies selling off the main trunk BUA operation, they kept the local services around the UK, with Peter Villa now in charge, named British Island Airways. This lasted for a few years, and then these were merged with independent Air Anglia, which did the same thing in a different part of the country, to form Air UK. PV in charge again. He wanted to get back into holiday flights from Gatwick, and got some One-Elevens, but his shipping backers would not support investment in more, so he did a buyout of this part of the business and used the name British Island again. They picked up quite a bit of holiday flight work to the Mediterranean, got some Super One-Elevens, and even ultimately some MD-80s, but like other such UK operators did various lease-outs, including this longer term provision of One-Elevens to Air UK while they thought about their jet strategy, eventually settling on the BAe146.

BIA rolled along for a while, until they made the inevitable error of so many others, moving on from providing aircraft for holiday package operators to scheduled services, found all the necessary marketing was beyond them, had too many half-full flights, ran out of money and shut down. Air UK meantime had concentrated a lot on connecting provincial UK points to Amsterdam, which way back had been an Air Anglia focus, came to the close attention of KLM, and gradually the shipping companies sold out to them, the livery became common, Air UK became KLM UK, the non-Amsterdam routes were sold off, and that's really the background to all the KLM flights from so many UK airports to Amsterdam. I believe they still have UK crew bases for these, and a few old timers are still left from British Island (first time around) days.

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