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Old Jan 20, 2019, 2:05 am
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DanielW
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Dubai
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Originally Posted by gaobest
How much cash do you think people carried with them on your tour? Did the tour guide have suggestions? For the Dutchman buying Seat 1, did he know ahead of time that it would be 800EU or did he just have hundreds of EU on his person in anticipation of this? While on the metro or in crowded places, did you ever fear pickpockets like when your mobile was almost stolen in MEX?
as for the regime talk, I’m sure that some Tibetans or Uighurs wouldn’t be thrilled with all the TRs in China. Let’s not even get started with how some people might feel about TRs in the USA.
Without the aviation tour, would you still want to do another visit in DPRK, assuming that there are different tour options?
We were told the prices of the Mass Games before the trip so knew how much to bring. All the other expenses were minor, e.g. souvenirs, water was $0.30 a bottle, snacks, €5 for Juchhe Tower etc. All the main expenses, e.g. meals, hotels were all prepaid. No chance of pickpokets on the metro, both with the culture and consequences. They probably wouldn't be able to use the phone anyway.
Yes, seems unfair that DPRK is singled out from other 'not-so-nice' regimes. I would love to return some day, perhaps to do a train or the aviation tour.
Originally Posted by rivlinm
Awesome as always. In fact even better than your high standard. Well worth the wait.
It was fascinating to see how many unique places you visited compared to my five night marathon trip in 2017. I didn't get to see the Kim's resting spots, but after your review, I'm not sure I missed anything...
Not to hijack your thread but here are three photos worth sharing.
You mentioned not being allowed to take photos in the super market and war museum, but I took the risk. This one was the photo showing the 'American Pigs' in defeat.
I personally enjoyed the Dog Meat Soup and here is a close up of the meat itself. I got a gamy pulled meat taste as well.
This was my favorite from my five days and taken on my first morning. We had dramatically different views/weather. But the weather cleared up nicely and I got to see the blue sky/bustling Pyongyang later in the week.
Again, great stuff, Keep it up.
Many thanks, rivlinm. Great shot of the 'American Pigs'. Quite a provocative display, I guess playing more to a domestic audience than tourists. The dog meat was gamy, I guess it needs a bit of cooking too to be tender. Cool photo of Juche Tower and good timing of the cyclist^. Yes, the Kim Mausoleum wasn't too rivetting. The sheer scale was quite amazing though, a big windowless, airconditioned building for two dead bodies.
Originally Posted by bitterproffit
Wow, thank you for posting this trip report. I enjoyed the pictures. I found it fascinating.
Thank you, bitterproffit. I had been wanting to head to the DPRK for a while so was great to finally make it.
Originally Posted by worldtraveller73
Wow - thank you for a comprehensive trip report. It's probably the most comprehensive one on North Korea that I've ever seen.
I had a question about whether you asked or had to disclose whether photos would be used for Flyertalk or other blogs for the internet? I recalled a previous trip report where the poster had to clear it with the guide, who allegedly knew about this site. If It's not appropriate to share here, I'd love to hear by private message. It seems you had pretty much free run about photographs with the guide. The amount of photos that you took is probably more than the average tourist.
My other question was about the focal length of the lens you were allowed to bring in. It seems that has been answered as less than 250 mm?
Thank you again
Thanks, worldtraveller73. Yes, you have to sign a waiver stating you're not a journalist and are travelling in a personal capacity. I don't think they care too much about lens size. I had my 70-200mm f2.8 and customs was fine once she saw it was just a camera lens. Also at the Wonsan Air Festival numerous people had 500mm+ lenses to photograph the aircraft.
Originally Posted by anthonyparkersd
Hey Daniel,
I've always enjoyed your trip reports, but this definitely ranks up there with your best. When you take your photos do you ask the locals if it's alright? Any resistance from them?
Cheers, anthonyparkersd. I almost never asked for photos. I think they can be quite paranoid of foreigners so would likely just say no anyway. No one got upset anyway.
Originally Posted by nydave11
Great report. Don't listen to the haters.
Thank you, nydave11.
Originally Posted by blueline7
Absolutely fascinating! Thank you SO much! What an absolutely incredible experience. Bravo!!
How come no drone videos?! Wahahahahahha
Thanks, blueline7. Yes, I didn't even try and take my drone into the country. I am guessing I would be sentenced to many years of hard labour if I tried to buzz downtown Pyongyang with my Phantom!
Originally Posted by JohnRain
Definitely one of your best trip reports ever Daniel!
This goes above and beyond everything I have ever read/seen about this intriguing country...
Well done! ^
Many thanks, JohnRain. I read up on other people's trip before I went but it still didn't fully prepare me for visiting such a unique and quirky place. Hopefully I can head back when Kempinski finally starts operating the Ryugyong Hotel!
Originally Posted by g289t
I'm hoping that the restriction for Americans is lifted. Visiting North Korea is certainly on my bucket list. Hopefully President Trump's meetings with Kim will help change the situation. From what I understand, North Korea has no problem with Americans visiting.
I at least want to do a JSA visit from South Korea, where you can technically set foot inside North Korea. Were you not able to cross the border on your trip to the DMZ from North Korea?
Yes, hopefully the US travel ban is only temporary. We didn't go into the JSA border meeting rooms unfortunately. I think visits from the South are suspended at the moment too(?)
Originally Posted by diburning
Those tours were run by another firm, Juche Travel (which is a joint DPRK/UK firm). Unfortunately, I think those tours were operated with the express blessing of the DPRK government, and with escalating international tensions, I don't think those tours will resume until the relax (also for security reasons).
Yes, I booked with Juche for the (cancelled) 2017 Wonsan Air Festival. They did run an Aviation tour last October but said it would be the last one they would be organising.
Originally Posted by Uncle Nonny
Incredible TR. Took me hours to view it. I laugh at the irony of arriving back in China and enjoying the "freedom". Thanks for sharing.
Thanks, Uncle Nonny. Yes, the simple pleasure of walking down the street and ordering an iced coffee was surprisingly liberating! I needed to use a VPN to properly access the internet though.
Originally Posted by phranktzi
Thanks for sharing another wonderful report!
Thank you, phranktzi.
Originally Posted by cedric
Well done. What a once in a lifetime experience!
Cheers, cedric, yes, certainly an experience I'll never forget !
Originally Posted by 757
Wow, what an incredible report and photos. What an amazing experience and certainly a trip you will not soon forget!
Thanks, 757. It was such a weird and surreal trip, it almost feels like a dream now.
Originally Posted by SQTraveller
Great report!! really Detailed and interesting.
By the way. Early on in your report you have your boarding pass with name and barcode. I suggest you either blank those out or remove the photo --- barcode readers can a lot of info from those,
Thank you, SQTraveller. Yes, I probably need to be careful about that. I dont have any real frequent flier points to steal though.
Originally Posted by moondog
I'm supremely impressed @Daniel. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience in such vivid detail!
Many thanks, moondog. Such an interesting and almost mythical country from all the stuff you read and hear. It was great to experience it first hand though.
Originally Posted by gaobest
Daniel’s TRs always include pictures of his bps or visas etc with his full name showing. It’s kind of like how everyone on the UAL Forum knows that the guy who has flown 20million miles (plus) on UAL is Tom.
Also, I’ve heard that people can also eat dog in China. Not my thing just like how I don’t eat horse in Europe. I do like goat and deer and other non-human animals
I am loving both this TR and the comments. I myself stayed up past 2am partly because of this TR. omg so worth it!!
I think dog is becoming more rare in China, at least in the main cities. I have heard it is served in Vietnam though. And my apologies for keeping you up so late!
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