Yep. Marriott has like 5x the options of Hyatt in NYC, and a wider pricing range. And Hyatt is a less attractive option in NYC since the Andazs have gone downhill. But the programs offer clear choices, and I don't see much point complaining that one is "too expensive." Moreover, based just on cash rates, the PHNYC will certainly be a better deal than SR or Chatawal once Marriott introduces Cat 8 and peak pricing (presumably in March).

Well I do think some of the RIs are comparable to, if not better than, Hyatt Herald Square, which is IMO a terrible value at 25k points. But that's no more ridiculous than, say the Edition at 60k Marriott.

I've got RI Downtown/Wall Street booked using a 25k point cert in January and really happy with that deal . . . .