Yeah...there are all sorts of hidden gems (i.e. I've seen rooms available at the Atlanta Marriott Marquis during Dragon*Con for 35,000 points/night...pulling five nights during D*C for 140,000 points once you account for the free fifth night is /not/ a bad deal...the cheapest paid rate I can find for that is $2585 before tax/over $3047 after tax, though it comes with a Starbuck's credit per night as well...so you're down *slightly* on that total once you take that out of the equation), and there's always airline transferring as well (where you should be able to pull over a cent per point if you're not stupid careful. If Marriott did grandfathering for D*C like the Hyatt does and the room was suited to my D*C needs, I'd consider taking that, noise levels be damned, and there goes at least 2/3 of my annual Marriott point earning for the foreseeable future.