Originally Posted by Jimmie76
Thanks for that, really appreciate it. I read it and figure the best thing to try is restarting the machine, but as it's 04:00 over here I might just get some sleep first

Weird thing is it recognises it exists in the Windows toolbar just not in Itunes. Odd......As a bit of a last resort a friend of my brothers has an Ipod & a Mac so I might try it on his machine later today.
Just noticed that it also says the disk might be formatted for a Mac, great, another possible cause.
Thanks Again,
Jimmie
Finally got it to work, someone at work suggested a software problem, and to re-install the software, which only took twenty mins. Ipod was then visible in ITunes and it updated fine, 967 songs later and it was loaded. If they ever make one that 'you' can change the batteries on I might consider one myself, otherwise I'll stick to minidiscs.