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Old Dec 3, 2018 | 3:20 pm
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Originally Posted by coolfish1103
Striving for 100% load factor is not really wrong. If it really gets to that point on the 359, CI will just sub in 77W and upgrade some Economy passengers to Premium Economy (or oversell PY).




Again, not sure where you are coming from. This has nothing to do with ONT or the LAX region, so not sure why you have to voice it in this thread.

To give input on your comments: CI isn't doing so well head to head in North America (though I think their YVR operation is better), but CI is doing well in many other regions except probably Southeast Asia. Though, I am not sure your examples really worked. I don't see CI actually tried in either LAX or SFO. SEA might be a better example in the past. For SFO, that new 2-3 weekly lasted only a few months before it got pulled for Oceania once enough planes are ready to go. Then for LAX, they have maintained the 12-14 weekly for god knows how long. Nothing really changed with the new planes, so I don't think it proves anything of CI is going to fail. CI 27/8 only happened once in a blue moon when there is overflown in number of passengers and now is the flight # for Koror.

To me CI is just trying to keep it's current passengers and yields in North America. They are not venturing into anything except this ONT flight, which is why a thread is opened. I think BR is already feeling there are excess capacity in North America, so they are not adding much here (and now challenging CI on VIE and NGO next) except SEA seasonal boost.
No airline strives for 100%. Prior to the start of a route, yield and load predictions will be made, and their goals are off of those numbers. Simply planning for 100% is delusional and represents a lack of knowledge/experience in the field. I highly doubt a CI exec. had 100% in mind(maybe OIAA) as they all are pretty experienced with the markets.
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