Originally Posted by
26volt
Though, the ramp agent gave us a tidbit on what CI and OIAA are expecting of this route. He didn't delve into specifics since OIAA authority is overlooking the page, though was at liberty to say that both parties are striving for a 100% load factor, though see 80% or more load factor as a win for both parties. So, take this information as you see fit.
Originally Posted by
hayzel7773
Really hope that goal is his own as well. If that is mgmt. goal or airport goal, they should not be working the industry.
First part of December has historically been abysmal as holiday travelers amass during the Christmas/New Year season instead.
Striving for 100% load factor is not really wrong. If it really gets to that point on the 359, CI will just sub in 77W and upgrade some Economy passengers to Premium Economy (or oversell PY).
Originally Posted by
krispykrme
My point is that even if CI wants to try go after BR. CI has never been able to do anything against BR head to head. SFO and LAX are good example where CI has not done well even with newer fleet now.
I don’t think CI and BR has been trying to avoid each other. Taiwan simply doesn’t have that many route authority to allocate to two airlines.
Again, not sure where you are coming from. This has nothing to do with ONT or the LAX region, so not sure why you have to voice it in this thread.
To give input on your comments: CI isn't doing so well head to head in North America (though I think their YVR operation is better), but CI is doing well in many other regions except probably Southeast Asia. Though, I am not sure your examples really worked. I don't see CI actually tried in either LAX or SFO. SEA might be a better example in the past. For SFO, that new 2-3 weekly lasted only a few months before it got pulled for Oceania once enough planes are ready to go. Then for LAX, they have maintained the 12-14 weekly for god knows how long. Nothing really changed with the new planes, so I don't think it proves anything of CI is going to fail. CI 27/8 only happened once in a blue moon when there is overflown in number of passengers and now is the flight # for Koror.
To me CI is just trying to keep it's current passengers and yields in North America. They are not venturing into anything except this ONT flight, which is why a thread is opened. I think BR is already feeling there are excess capacity in North America, so they are not adding much here (and now challenging CI on VIE and NGO next) except SEA seasonal boost.