What makes the pool at PH better than Andaz? Both are very high up, and Andaz pool appears to have high windows with views overlooking the city just like PH's. The only difference appears to be that Andaz's pool only has 1 lap lane?
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gengar
Conrad is my value luxury choice in Tokyo; it's usually a good deal on points and paying for suites is often a steal relative to other lux Tokyo properties, especially with a night off via FHR. The hard product is very good and concierge excellent IME. The big weakness is on-property F&B, but even then the breakfast buffet is very good. I'm not sure why it isn't better-regarded on here; discussing just Tokyo lux properties I've stayed at, it has better hard product IMO than the RC, far better concierge IME than the MO (I actually canceled my MO stay b/c of horrid pre-arrival experience with the concierge), and doesn't have the noise problems of FS:M. (And it's better than the Pen, but that is a property that is, fairly, nearly-universally maligned on here.) I had a great stay at the Palace recently, but the Conrad is my clear go-to if I need to be in that area of Tokyo or if the Palace is not available.
I haven't stayed at the PH but have a points booking coming up at the Andaz, although I'll switch over to Palace if space opens up.
All that said, I do think it's important to factor location into your decision.
Interesting feedback on Conrad. It's good to get an affirmation that Conrad's right up there with the rest. I have more experience with luxury hotels in HKG and, over there, I would say Peninsula > Conrad=I.Shangrila > K.Shangrila. I think Conrad Tokyo is at least on par with Conrad HKG hotel-wise (even though I love Conrad HKG more due to friendlier staff and better elite treatment).
So, would this be a reasonable top-9 (in no particular order)?
Prince Gallery
Ritz Carlton
Aman
Andaz
Park Hyatt
Palace
Shangrila
Mandarin Oriental
Conrad
And then the next tier would be: Peninsula, Four Seasons, Grand Hyatt, Hotel Tokyu Capitol, Chinzanso, Sakura Towers?
Wonder how Chinzanso is now. I stayed there not long before it debranded, but even then it wasn't as good a hotel as Conrad is.
I'm not familiar with Andaz Tokyo or the whole Andaz concept for that matter, but I'm sort of curious to see for myself why it gets such high marks here when it goes for same points as Grand Hyatt.