Originally Posted by
yulred
1. Its an interesting question, because it applies to any type of impairment. If a pilot shows up drunk, they can be terminated. It should be the same for fatigue. Put punitive penalties into place for pilots who show up for a flight, operate it, and then exit the plane so exhausted they evidently can't make a phone call to report a fatigue-related incident, with direct adverse consequences for the subsequent investigation. I don't think it's complicated, partly because this doesn't seem to be a recurring theme with other airlines. What do they do?
2. Fatigue-related impairment can result in delayed actions. DL appears to have realized it's error much earlier. AC misalignment would probably have been a much less publicized issue if they recognized their error earlier and corrected/cleared the taxiway with a much wider safety margin instead of taking it as close as they did. That seems to be a big part of the report.
At the end of the day, virtually every developed aviation jurisdiction (and many developing ones) have stronger pilot fatigue regulations than whatever TC and AC are doing. Which begs lots of question:
Are the FAA, NTSB, NASA etc just chumps or do they actually know what they're doing and why they're doing it? Did they just make up those rules for kicks and giggles? Does AC really know better than them? Is it possible that TC/AC are putting economic considerations ahead of safety, as the NTSB vice chairman openly suggested?
While it is important to look at all factors, is there an excuse for delaying quick action on the low-hanging fruit here (pilot fatigue), given that multiple jurisdictions have expended significant effort into understanding this issue and addressing it? I''m not convinced. The only reason not to follow the global trend here appears, to me, to be financial.
1) Are you saying that punitive actions weren't taken? The pilots were suspended.
2) Would it not be accurate to say that, once the pilots asked for clarification, due to the fact that they saw lights, they were starting to take action? Their action did appear to be slower than the Delta pilots, but that doesn't mean that the Delta pilots weren't fatigued. And what of the planes that have landed on taxiways, but didn't happen to strike anything in the process?
3) I will take your word on how many jurisdictions have tighter fatigue laws, because I really don't know. However, do you really believe that TC is motivated more by the ability for the airline to make money, than for the safety of the passengers?