Kagehitokiri

speaking only for myself, im not really concerned with "offtopic" in my threads

feltrinelli allowed tourists for a single drink, if they say "regulars" they likely just turn 'certain' people away, anything better than nothing but not 'closed'

the question is why is NZ is the only country in the world like that, for example relative lack of luxury in AU (incl wolgan - reports dropping off)

raffles has always had comments about that here, not too big with the pool etc, good example in a city, and rare in cities (vs public bars next to pools...)

caribbean and places with waterline/tide laws are interesting, petit st vincent allowed nonguests, boaters would come in to the restaurant/bar

nimmo(?) allows some nonguests by boat, noticed recently when looking at most expensive places in NW (among most expensive in world)

inclusive rates may help with budgeting, and perhaps increasing losses when the goal is NOL for taxes which applies to at least one in NZ

could use the wiki to break down different types, like vitznau etc

the closing of facilities (like the only pool) to guests, for events, can get crazy

zero nonguests is rare, why i asked specifically for europe for example

speaking of, imagine smaller honegg with no 'restaurant' and no advertising