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Old Feb 7, 2018, 4:11 am
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KARFA
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Originally Posted by sirkay
Seem to be some cheap fares again from Germany.

https://www.google.com/flights/?curr...=ONEWORLD;eo=e

Interesting that a Saturday night stay does not appear to be necessary.
Thanks sirkay ^ The fare conditions differ from yesterday's fare.

exGERMANY Sale Fare BA IKX6T1S2 to US in Business

Some information below on this sale fare from Germany to the US - it seems to be to NYC and Chicago only. Some example prices are noted below. Routing with two connections in the US is possible so example TP earning can be:

DUS-LHR-JFK-BOS-ORD rtn = (40+140+40+40)x2 = 520 TP

It may be possible to route via HEL (e.g. TXL-HEL-LHR) but I haven't checked that possibility yet.

The fare has a ticket by date of:

TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 08 FEB 18.
It seems to be available from all starting points in Germany, so DUS, HAM, MUC, FRA, HAM, HAJ, TXL, NUE, STR, and FDH

Example prices (exDUS and all via LHR):

NYC - £1,094
ORD - £1,093

it seems this is just for NYC and ORD? I can't find it for other US cities?

Some other starting points in Germany may be cheaper.

PERMITTED 02 APR 18 THROUGH 22 JUN 18 OR 27 AUG 18 THROUGH 31 OCT 18 FOR EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
FROM GERMANY - PERMITTED SUN THROUGH WED ON EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
TO GERMANY - PERMITTED TUE THROUGH THU ON EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
This allows positioning for your inbound TATL prior to the Sunday. You can therefore set off from PHX on Saturday arriving in to NYC during Saturday, have a night in NYC night, and then do your TATL on Sunday.

RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 60 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE.
2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE
So 2 transfers in Europe and 2 transfers in the US each way. An overnight connection of up to 24 hrs between flights would be counted as a transfer, anything beyond that would be a stopover.

STOPOVERS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
Cancellation and change conditions:

Code:
CANCELLATIONS
    BEFORE DEPARTURE
      CHARGE EUR 250.00 FOR CANCEL/NO-SHOW/REFUND.
         NOTE -
          IN THE CASE OF THE DEATH OF THE PASSENGER/
          OR A TRAVELING COMPANION/THE SERVICE CHARGE MAY
          BE WAIVED OR THE TICKET REFUNDED.
          VISIT AA.COM FOR DETAIL.
          ----
          INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
          CHILD DISCOUNTS DO NOT APPLY.
          ----
          FOR TRAVEL AGENCY BOOKINGS MADE IN MEXICO / THE
          CARIBBEAN / CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA - AA WILL
          ASSESS A USD 25.00 FEE ON ANY UNTICKETED
          RESERVATION NOT CANCELED BEFORE DEPARTURE.
          ------------------------------------------------
          THE ORIGINAL NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS
          NON-REFUNDABLE.
          REFUND PERMITTED WITHIN TICKET VALIDTY.
          ------------------------------------------------
          WHEN COMBINING FARES THAT HAVE CANCELLATION FEES
          THE HIGHEST CANCELLATION FEE OF EACH CANCELLED
          PRICING UNIT APPLIES.
          WITH THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTION-
          WHEN COMBINING A REFUNDABLE FARE WITH A NON-
          REFUNDABLE FARE
          1- THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE REFUNDABLE FARE
          COMPONENT IS REFUNDED LESS APPLICABLE PENALTY
          2- THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE NON-REFUNDABLE FARE
          COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
    AFTER DEPARTURE
      TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE IN CASE OF CANCEL/NO-SHOW/
        REFUND.
         NOTE -
          IN THE CASE OF THE DEATH OF THE PASSENGER/
          OR A TRAVELING COMPANION/THE SERVICE CHARGE MAY
          BE WAIVED OR THE TICKET REFUNDED.
          VISIT AA.COM FOR DETAIL.
          ------------------------------------------------
          WHEN COMBINING FARES THAT HAVE CANCELLATION FEES
          THE HIGHEST CANCELLATION FEE OF EACH CANCELLED
          PRICING UNIT APPLIES.
          WITH THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTION-
          WHEN COMBINING A REFUNDABLE FARE WITH A NON-
          REFUNDABLE FARE
          1- THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE REFUNDABLE FARE
          COMPONENT IS REFUNDED LESS APPLICABLE PENALTY
          2- THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE NON-REFUNDABLE FARE
          COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
  CHANGES
    BEFORE DEPARTURE
      CHARGE EUR 250.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
         NOTE -
          INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
          CHILD DISCOUNTS DO NOT APPLY.
          -----
          THE CHANGE FEE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION AND PERSON.
          A CHANGE IS A ROUTING / OR DATE / OR FLIGHT
          MODIFICATION.
          CHANGE IS PERMITTED WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY OF
          ORIGINAL TICKET.
          THE ORIGINAL NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS
          NON-REFUNDABLE.
          --------------------------------------------------
          WHERE THIS FARE IS COMBINED WITH ANOTHER FARE AND
          ONLY ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE PENALTY
          CONDITIONS OF THE CHANGED FARE COMPONENT WILL
          APPLY.
          WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS BEING CHANGED
          THE HIGHEST PENALTY OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
          WILL APPLY.
          --------------------------------------------------
          IN CASE OF UPGRADE TO A HIGHER FARE OR IF THE
          ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE THE DIFFERENCE
          WILL BE COLLECTED -AND- THE CHANGE FEE WILL BE
          APPLIED.
          --------------------------------------------------
          WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE A
          REFUND OF THE RESIDUAL AMOUNT LESS THE APPLICABLE
          PENALTY WILL BE MADE.
          --------------------------------------------------
          REISSUE/REVALIDATION MUST BE MADE AT THE SAME TIME
          THE RESERVATION IS CHANGED.
          --------------------------------------------------
                     CALCULATION FOR REISSUES
          //CHANGES BEFORE OUTBOUND DEPARTURE//
          WHEN THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE
          ITINERARY MUST BE REPRICED USING CURRENT FARES IN
          EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED.
          -----
          WHEN THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE FIRST FARE
          COMPONENT BUT OTHER FARE COMPONENTS ARE CHANGED
          THE ITINERARY MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL
          FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR
          CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE OF TICKET
          REISSUE WHICHEVER IS LOWER.
          --------------------------------------------------
          //CHANGES AFTER DEPARTURE//
          THE ITINERARY MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL
          FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
          --------------------------------------------------
          THE NEW ITINERARY MUST MEET ALL RULE PROVISIONS
          OF THE NEWLY TICKETED FARE - I.E.  ADVANCE
          RESERVATIONS/TICKETING DEADLINE/MINIMUM/MAXIMUM
          STAY/BOOKING CLASS/SEASONALITY  ETC.
    AFTER DEPARTURE
      CHARGE EUR 250.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
         NOTE -
          INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
          CHILD DISCOUNTS DO NOT APPLY.
          -----
          THE CHANGE FEE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION AND PERSON.
          A CHANGE IS A ROUTING / OR DATE / OR FLIGHT
          MODIFICATION.
          CHANGE IS PERMITTED WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY OF
          ORIGINAL TICKET.
          THE ORIGINAL NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS
          NON-REFUNDABLE.
          --------------------------------------------------
          WHERE THIS FARE IS COMBINED WITH ANOTHER FARE AND
          ONLY ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE PENALTY
          CONDITIONS OF THE CHANGED FARE COMPONENT WILL
          APPLY.
          WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS BEING CHANGED
          THE HIGHEST PENALTY OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
          WILL APPLY.
          --------------------------------------------------
          IN CASE OF UPGRADE TO A HIGHER FARE OR IF THE
          ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE THE DIFFERENCE
          WILL BE COLLECTED -AND- THE CHANGE FEE WILL BE
          APPLIED.
          --------------------------------------------------
          WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE THE
           CHANGE FEE APPLIES AND THERE IS NO REFUND HOWEVER
           THE DIFFERENCE IN FARE WILL BE RETURNED TO THE PA
          SSENGER IN THE FORM OF A NON-REFUNDABLE TRAVEL VOU
          CHER WHICH MAY BE APPLIED TOWARDS THE PURCHASE OF
          A TICKET VALID FOR TRANSPORTATION GOVERNED BY AA O
          NLY.
          --------------------------------------------------
          REISSUE/REVALIDATION MUST BE MADE AT THE SAME TIME
          THE RESERVATION IS CHANGED.
          --------------------------------------------------
                     CALCULATION FOR REISSUES
          //CHANGES BEFORE OUTBOUND DEPARTURE//
          WHEN THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE
          ITINERARY MUST BE REPRICED USING CURRENT FARES IN
          EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED.
          -----
          WHEN THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE FIRST FARE
          COMPONENT BUT OTHER FARE COMPONENTS ARE CHANGED
          THE ITINERARY MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL
          FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR
          CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE OF TICKET
          REISSUE WHICHEVER IS LOWER.
          --------------------------------------------------
          //CHANGES AFTER DEPARTURE//
          THE ITINERARY MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL
          FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
          --------------------------------------------------
          THE NEW ITINERARY MUST MEET ALL RULE PROVISIONS
          OF THE NEWLY TICKETED FARE - I.E.  ADVANCE
          RESERVATIONS/TICKETING DEADLINE/MINIMUM/MAXIMUM
          STAY/BOOKING CLASS/SEASONALITY  ETC.
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