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Old Jan 5, 2018, 4:18 pm
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WorldLux
 
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Originally Posted by scillyisles
My source found the extra revenue aspect bemusing as according to his figures VS who have had Wifi on their planes for some time on average only have 5 people use wifi on a transatlantic flight and he did not know of any airlines making a profit on wifi.
Seems obvious. The days where you'd be able to milk customers for using Wifi are long gone. I can't think of an hotel I've stayed at in the past 8 to 10 years that still charged for Wifi. Some offered premium packages (for more devices/speed), but basic access with decent speed was always free. Same goes for hotels and some cities that operate their own networks.

Originally Posted by chongcao
That sounds wonderful! So BA will add 12 seats - 18 seats (ha, how much weight each?) and 12-18 adults passengers (average 75KGs per person), not to count 12-18 extra lifejacket and extra emergency equipment...Math is wonderful.
An ... in the seat pays money. A screen does not. The screens + cables + the computer unit will amount to a noticeable amount of weight. Given that most passenger carry at least one multimedia device with them, it seems only sensible to retire those systems and offer passenger the basic flight information over the WLAN. As already mentioned LH does just that. Other airlines and even train operators have similar approaches.

Originally Posted by scottishpoet
More seats might mean more chance of elites having a free seat beside them
Or pre-flight fight clubs to see who gets to use the bins. With the current configuration it's often difficult enough for everyone to find space in the bins. It's not going to get any better if you put in more seats. The obvious solution to the problem is to strictly enforce the yellow tags (which crews IME do semi-strictly) and/or to have a cut-off after a certain number of carry-ons have been boarded.

Originally Posted by PJSMITH0
i didn’t notice the pitch as I won the sprint across the apron to get an exit row.
These days you just check in minutes before the OLCI closes and you'll likely get an exit row. No need to run to the plane and on that one FR flight I took in the past decade, the crew had closed the two bins on each side to make sure that the passenger in the exit row would have some place to store their things (something BA could do as well).

Originally Posted by bisonrav
But let's assume status benefits costs about £25 per lounge visit, there goes the margin on the business travellers taking cheap flights unless BA can put prices up to a premium over LCC. And they can't.
That's something that I've been wondering about recently too. I had a 40£ return short haul flight on BA. Two checked bags each way and lounge access both directions via status.

Originally Posted by ELLX
They will install the Recaro SL3510. Here is a picture of the same seat (but in TAP Portugal colours):

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Originally Posted by V10
I remember a broadly similar discussion around seats when the current SH cabin was being rolled out. Now I'm certainly not an expert (thankfully, as they're rather out of favour these days) but my arse has spent enough time in an aircraft seat for me to have a certain amount of intuition around how much comfort might be expected.
The issue is however that the new seat will be considerably thinner than the current one and BA/Recaro can say whatever they like but at the end of the day a thinner seat implies thinner cushioning which in turn means less comfortable.


Originally Posted by Speedbird92A
What will happen to all those seats that aren’t really that old at all once they’ve been pulled out in return for the new benches, surely they won’t all be kept as parts for a LGW fleet or CE.
  • Store them and reuse them when CE seats wear out.
  • Sell them
  • Write them off and send them to the landfill

Originally Posted by Hannibal Lecter
"The SL3510 model from Recaro fulfills all of our expectations and offers our demanding customers an outstanding level of comfort,”
BA chief executive officer Alex Cruz says about the deal.
"You lot always complained that the CE seat was identical to the ET seat. In response to customer feedback we are now introducing a new seat to differentiate our premium CE experience from economy class"
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