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Old Dec 12, 2017 | 3:40 am
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Originally Posted by CJPacker
Choosing *A FFP???? No status beginning.

Please help or clarify. TIA!!!


Comparing UA to Asiana Airlines - OZ on hypothetical flight

Attempting to get *G using one of these two programs… Do I have it correct???

Asiana Club

Diamond

Asiana Club Diamond Members are granted Star Alliance Gold Membership, and a number of special benefits are provided, including use of the dedicated check-in counter, priority baggage processing and use of airport lounges of Star Alliance partners. Diamond Members can accumulate miles whenever they board flights of Asiana Airlines and Star Alliance and use the services of partners including credit card companies, hotels and car rental services, and can use the miles for flight trips using Asiana Airlines and Star Alliance partners. The miles can also be used for services of Asiana Airlines partners, including theaters, resorts and online duty-free shops

Terms and Conditions of Membership Agreement

Qualification

Accumulate 40,000 miles by boarding Asiana Airlines or Star Alliance flights, or board 50 Asiana Airlines flights within 24 months from the base date*



So for OZ - I need 40,000 qualifying miles for Diamond Membership (=*G)? - PQM’s - Nothing about $$ spent??

__________United Airlines MileagePlus member____________________________

United airlines requirements for *GPremier Gold
50,000 PQM or 60 PQS (and $6,000)
Need PQM's and $6,000 spent

SO for this example, if I take this flight to Asia it shows as all UA flight# (But some segments ANA) and these details:

Thu, Jan 25, 2018 $360 (Price of ticket less taxes)

Departing

10:50 amNew York/Newark, NJ, US (EWR - Liberty)

11:55 pmKuala Lumpur, MY (KUL)

New York/Newark, NJ, US (EWR - Liberty)

Kuala Lumpur, MY (KUL)

MileagePlus earnings:

900 base award miles
10,070 PQM 2 PQS $180 PQD


New York/Newark, NJ, US (EWR - Liberty) to Tokyo, JP (NRT - Narita)

10:50 am - 3:00 pm (14h 10m)

UA 79 Boeing 777-300ER

· United Economy (K)

· Tokyo, JP (NRT - Narita) to Kuala Lumpur, MY (KUL)

5:15 pm - 11:55 pm (7h 40m)

UA 7962 Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner

Operated By All Nippon Airways

· Economy (K)
__________________________________________________ ________________
Wed, Feb 07, 2018

Departing 8:00 am Kuala Lumpur, MY (KUL)

Arriving4:45 pm New York/Newark, NJ, US (EWR - Liberty)

Kuala Lumpur, MY (KUL)

New York/Newark, NJ, US (EWR - Liberty

Flight segments
· KUL to NRT


MileagePlus earnings:

900 base award miles
10,070 PQM 2 PQS $180 PQD


Kuala Lumpur, MY (KUL) to Tokyo, JP (NRT - Narita)

8:00 am - 3:40 pm (6h 40m)

UA 7967 Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner

Operated By All Nippon Airways

· Economy (K)

Tokyo, JP (NRT - Narita) to New York/Newark, NJ, US (EWR - Liberty)

5:55 pm - 4:45 pm (12h 50m)

UA 78 Boeing 777-300ER

· United Economy (K)

So does this detail show me exactly the PQM’s without going to the charts and looking at whether “K” flight is 25% or 50% etc. – 10,070 PQM’s each way or 20,140 PQM’s.

If true, then if I credited to Asiana Airlines FFP it would be over 50% (needed 40,000), of the way to *G as OZ Diamond status?

In the UA situation it would only be $360 (Price of ticket less taxes) toward the necessary $6,000 component needed to gain *G status.

Way Short on achieving *G.

Any help appreciated.
Not that simple

ANA K fare only earns 30% in OZ club and UA K fare only earns 50% in OZ club. So you would only earn 6732 miles for EWR-NRT r/t and 3358 miles for NRT-KUL r/t. So in total 10090. Whereas on UA, you'll earn nearly double that, 20140 PQM.

So with OZ, you come out way ahead in terms of redeemable miles, but way behind in terms of status miles, which is what you seem to care about.

However, with these super cheap fares to Asia, you will never reach the $6k PQD needed for *G, unless you have an overseas address to register your UA account, in which case that requirement is waived entirely.

Sorry to be a downer, but many people get overly excited about the OZ program without understanding its fallbacks. UA also just happens to be very generous in awarding status miles, mainly because it can, with people needing to complete the PQD requirement anyways.
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