Originally Posted by
kkua
A lot of times, codeshare flights will restrict stopover rules. Codeshared flights often must be booked in married segments. Hence, the next connecting flight must be taken within 4 hrs domestic or 24 hrs internationally.
Reading further, I see this circle-trip will not price correctly. The distance between ONT and GRU is longer than either CWL-ONT or GRU-CWL. Hence, you cannot invoke the stopover rule for circle-trip or an open-jaw pricing. Also, you may bump into the higher-intermediary-point rule for GRU-CWL because of connection in ATL, JFK or AMS.
The best workaround this would be an end-on-end ticketing for 2 open-jaws. Ticket A: CWL-AMS-connect somewhere USA-ONT, open jaw, JFK-CDG-CWL. Ticket B: ONT-ATL-GRU-JFK. You should always avoid backtracking your open jaw connecting cities. Ticket A should not be CWL-AMS-CWL, AMS-ONT plus ATL-AMS. Neither should ticket B route ONT-ATL-GRU-ATL. The system will try to calculate roundtrips from common connecting point and add one-way segments before or after the roundtrip. After both itineraries are ticketed, call up the airline and have them string them together by cross-referencing each other.
Best of luck. Contact me privately should you require more assistance. I have extensive experience in ticketing circle-trip, open-jaw and end-on-end itineraries.
I think you missed a couple of points made previously, while I am assuming that you know the TLA's (Three Letter Abbreviations) for different airports?
As a few people still seem to think that ONT is for some obscure reason in Canada when it is in fact Ontario International Airport in the USA:
So using the TLA's:
1) KLM would not accept as a 'Code Share' the Itinerary that went:
Leg 1: CWL - AMS - SLC - ONT.
Leg 2: ONT - SLC - DTW - GRU
Leg 3: GRU - AMS - CWL
They said that as we went from SLC - ONT in Leg 1 and then in Leg 2 went ONT - SLC that was not acceptable for a Code Share Itinerary as we were at that point going 'backwards'.
So I asked about changing Leg 2 and go from LAX to GRU and was again told 'No Deal' even though we were now continuing to move 'forwards'.
KLM were prepared to offer Leg 1 and Leg 2 as a combined itinerary and 1 ticket, but Leg 2 would have to be second separate ticket which also meant 2 Flight Confirmation Numbers (one for each ticket) while the total cost was going to be £3900.
2) Delta offered a 'Code Share' with a twist and it went:
Leg 1: Same route as KLM.
Leg 2: Same route as KLM.
Leg 3: GRU - ATL then after 6 hours layover ATL - AMS and finally AMS to CWL.
Not ideal having the 'diversion' to ATL which is an overnight flight to get there and then a 6 hour layover and another overnight flight from ATL to AMS.
However as Delta offered the complete route on one booking reference and one ticket their cost was £2853.
A saving of £1407 in my pocket. ^
So.......The Delta Route/Tickets have been purchased, while interestingly I now have 1 Flight Confirmation Number from Delta for the complete journey and a different Flight Confirmation number with KLM while surprisingly it includes 'Leg 2' which KLM said they could not accommodate.
So now after the 5 hours I spent on the telephone between KLM & Delta we are sorted.
I wanted to do another trip later in 2018 to the Far East but again KLM would not accept a flight that involved one of their Code Share Partners, which meant 2 tickets and a much higher price!
So I looked at Singapore Airlines who can do the total itinerary with no problem while at a much lower price for the tickets.