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Old Oct 11, 2017 | 12:06 am
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traumamed
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Originally Posted by Kacee
You engaged in a prohibited transaction and were on notice that, under the T&C, UA could void your ticket and make you pay for a new one. Purchasing TravelBank funds from a third-party who, by definition, was breaching the T&C also put you on notice that person might have obtained the funds through fraud.

I really don't see litigation ending well at all for you here.

But of course you should consult your own lawyer rather than relying on advice in an internet forum
I fully agree that I will obtain my own legal counsel, should it come to that. I just brought it here for discussion. I used to be a much more active flyer, and at least back in the mid-late '00s, it was commonplace for bartering to occur. Maybe that is not so anymore.

I have a feeling I am not going to see eye to eye with a lot of you, and that's okay.

Please try to remember, UA is just a company. They are not a governmental agency. Their internal T&Cs are only policies and do not by their mere existence convey actual legal rights - although sometimes we as frequent flyers can easily get into a mindset that they do.

I am not a lawyer, but I simply find the following scenario hard to fathom:

- John buys a tablet from Wally World with a fraudulent credit card.
- John lists the tablet on Craigslist, where he is connected with buyer Jake. He even provides Jake with the original purchase receipt, telling Jake that it should still be under warranty.
- Jake's 3-year-old daughter accidentally drops and breaks the tablet.
- Jake decides to take the tablet back to Wally World to see if it is covered under any sort of damage replacement warranty.
- Wally World, upon realizing Jake has their essentially stolen tablet, decides to call the police and have Jake arrested for possessing stolen goods, and demand he pay for the tablet since it is now broken? Jake is legally going to be fine in this scenario. Wally World is out of luck.

UA's T&Cs not withstanding, I am Jake in this scenario. The ticket is used, and thus worthless. Sorry, UA. I can't help that I unknowingly came into possession of fraudulently obtained goods, and now that those goods are "destroyed," it's not on me to replace them just because I was the last guy holding the hot potato. Not trying to be argumentative. Just offering my obviously non-professional perspective, which I base on the Googling I did tonight about case law and not on UA's almighty T&Cs.
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