I am not trying to sway anyone's opinion as it is not my job to convince people to fly BA.. I don't understand how pointing out the reality - that millions of passengers like CW and pay for it - amounts to not accepting someone else's point of view. I realize that some people do not like CW. I don't understand why as I fail to see a difference between different business class seats as long as one turns into a flat bed (well, actually, also as long as it does not go under the seat in front and allows free or easy aisle access, which CW does for me). But even if the accepted opinion here is that F is J+, J is apparently now Y+ or even Y, it does not make it the universal truth either. Of course, that millions of others like BA won't help someone who hates the airline but then I don't understand what they're trying to achieve by reminding us that BA is not CX or QR and constantly wishing that others should rather hurry up and abandon BA so that BA finally wakes up and changes the seats, reverses BoB, puts flowers in washrooms etc.