Originally Posted by
offerendum
I canīt see a plate is above Bib Gourmand

Indeed a Bib Gourmand is only about value, a plate is the basic-rating (with excemption of gastro-pubs). Forks ans spoons are not related to the kitchen, they only about ambience.
All the suborders confuse me, the more there are the less attention I can pay.
Someday perhaps I shall study up on these, but meanwhile, your correction is
accepted.