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Old Jan 27, 2017 | 7:31 am
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Yolalon
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
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Thanks so much Pandaperth, Unterwegs and Gardyloo for your replies. Knowing that prices are not so volatile as normal airfares makes a great difference, as I can spend more time trying out different options for the itinerary.

Originally Posted by pandaperth
However purchasing close-in to departure might mean you have problems with availability, especially in economy class and more especially in economy for flights such as SYD-SCL-IPC-SCL for which finding availability is always difficult.
This is quite useful to know, thanks! I will keep an eye on those fares and if I see availability starts to reduce I can just buy the tickets and get them re-priced later if I need to change the departure date

Originally Posted by pandaperth
In your case, to purchase with BA you can simply have your first flight (LHR-HKG) with BA (or you could fly LHR-BKK direct with BA).
That was the first option I tried, but then playing around I realised flying via Hong Kong from LGW was over £300 cheaper. I don't mind splashing a bit if I get some value out of it, but I found the difference in price quite excessive for the benefit of a direct flight.

Originally Posted by pandaperth
.You don’t say which FF programme you would accrue to. All your flights can be accrued to the one programme, but economy class earning can be quite poor, as low as zero on some flights.
I don't have any FF programme yet, I need to spend some time on the relevant forum to try and find out which one would work better for me. I guess probably BA or Iberia, which are the airlines I'm more likely to use but I need to do some serious reading on that point

Originally Posted by Unterwegs
You could also use a travel agent to book. There are some pretty experienced agents around. You pay a fee, but booking, changing flights or even the routing is much, much easier that way.
I book everything else myself, buy I find for RTWs the money for the agent is well spent.
When I decided on the trip the first thing I did was going to Trailfinders, but the agent I spoke to told me they only had trips with two stops in South America, as they don't get much interest for that area!
Now I realise how hard this is I may give it another go and try some of the other travel agents to see if any of them would cover the trip I want.

Originally Posted by Unterwegs
Personally I would do the trip in Business Class, but then the additional cost is significant. For me it s much easier to get over jetlag when I can lay down and sleep
After reading the 'lay down and sleep' bit I've gone straight to check out photos of business class seats and I'm really tempted to go for Business! Even if it doesn't add enough value from a mileage point of view I think it definitely will from a comfort point of view!

Originally Posted by pandaperth
Good idea to point out the possibility of adding another trip at the end (which could of course be at the beginning instead)

Using the OP's first itinerary for example:
LHR-xHKG-BKK....BOG-MAD
stopover and return to LON on a separate return ticket
then later
MAD-TLV-LHR
Adding a trip at the end will be tricky as I want to start looking for a new job in January, and when I fly back from Bogotá I will staying in Spain for Christmas. But I will look at possible stops in the Middle East on my way to Thailand to make the most of my sectors.

Originally Posted by Gardyloo
- In addition to cheaper or more expensive base prices depending on the country of origin, the choice of issuing carrier and the original departure point can matter a lot. British Airways, for example, adds heavy surcharges and fees to RTW tickets that they issue; the same ticket issued by another airline might have a surprisingly smaller "bottom line." Once you get into the thicket of fare construction and taxes/fees computation, it all goes into a black box at the issuing airline, and - sadly - these computations are neither transparent nor debatable. The Oneworld online tool is notoriously buggy on this front; many people think the tool has given them a good fare but when they go to put in their credit card information it all goes to hell.
Thanks for this information Gardyloo! As I'm getting a breakdown of taxes and fees for the itineraries I had also assumed everything was included! If I decide to book directly with Oneworld rather than a Travel Agent I will make sure I phone one of the airlines to get a definitive fare, rather than trying to pay in the online tool.

Originally Posted by Gardyloo
given you have time to plan and do "what if" thought experiments, why not take the time now to "model" your proposed trip with a couple of major FF schemes. How many Avios and tier points would your itinerary earn if you credited them to BA? How about to Iberia? You can look up the Avios and TP earning tables for both economy (fare code L) and business (D) and see the differential.
Yes, I will start doing some reading on the FF schemes to see which one would work for me, as I haven't paid enough attention to that side of the planning yet, up to know I've focused mainly on trying to get the itinerary sorted! But now I'm slowly getting there I can start looking at the miles too

Originally Posted by Gardyloo
Especially for residents of the UK, starting somewhere else not only can help with the base price and taxes/fees/surcharges, it can also allow you to start or end using home as a stopover point. For example, the cheapest origin point for business class tickets in Europe is presently Norway; a DONE4 from Oslo has a base price £684 less than one from the UK. And if your first flight was to, say, Helsinki, you could have Finnair issue the ticket and possibly avoid big BA surcharges. You'd have to pay for "positioning" flights but those costs would be far less than the savings on the RTW ticket itself. (FWIW Norway is almost £200 less than Spain or the Euro zone for an LONE4 and almost £500 less than Spain/Euro for DONE4s.)
Thanks! I will try the itinerary starting from Oslo if it's that much cheaper for business. And I haven't been to either Oslo or Helsinki,so I could take the chance to visit them!
If I do OSL-HEL before flying to Bangkok would it allow me MAD-LON-OSL or would that be one stop too many in Europe? It would be useful to go to straight to London and leave the last leg of the journey for a weekend in Oslo in the spring once the weather is better.

Originally Posted by Gardyloo
Finally, you could also use your time to see if an RTW ticket makes the most sense in terms of total cost. Look at these FT boards - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/mileage-run-deals-372/ and http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/premium-fare-deals-740/ where members post alerts on good deals.
I'll have a look at those board as well, thanks! I've survived London-Quito and London-Bali in economy, so a few short flights in economy would be nothing for me
But I think the problem in finding good deals would most likely be on the South American sections, particularly Easter Island!

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