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Old Jan 17, 2017 | 5:41 am
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The P fare EDIBKK allows changes for 250GBP/change provided there is availability in P. The problem here is with the fact that your're trying to change the first segment of the ticket, which requires a repricing of the entire ticket at todays fare landscape. Which leads to another price hike.

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17JAN17**17JAN17/LH EDIBKK/NSP;EH/TPM ...../MPM  8029                           
***   FOR STAR ALLIANCE RTW* SEE FQD XYZXYZ EG:FRAFRA   ***                     
LN FARE BASIS    OW   GBP  RT   B PEN  DATES/DAYS   AP MIN MAX R                
01+J77OW         3639           J  -     -     -     -  -   -  M                
02+JFFOWGB       3419           J  -     -     -   + -  -   -  R                
03+CFFOWGB       2649           C  -     -     -   + -  -   -  R                
04+J77RT                   5190 J  -     -     -     -  -  12M M                
05+JFFGB                   4875 J  -     -     -   + -  -  12M R                
06+DFFOWGB       1949           D  -     -     -   + -  -   -  R                
07+CFFGB                   3775 C  -     -     -   + -  -  12M R                
08+DFFGB                   2775 D  -     -     -   + -  -  12M R                
09+ZRCGB                   1835 Z  +     -     -   +  + -  12M R                
10+PRCGB                   1435 P  +     -     -   +  +SU+ 12M R                
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FQN10*PE                                                                        
**  RULES DISPLAY  **                  TAX MAY APPLY                            
                                       SURCHG MAY APPLY-CK RULE                 
17JAN17**17JAN17/LH EDIBKK/NSP;EH/TPM ...../MPM  8029                           
LN FARE BASIS    OW   GBP  RT   B PEN  DATES/DAYS   AP MIN MAX R                
10+PRCGB                   1435 P  +     -     -   +  +SU+ 12M R                
FCL: PRCGB     TRF:   4 RULE: BIGB BK:  P                                       
PTC: ADT-ADULT              FTC: BX -BUSINESS CLASS EXCURSION                   
PE.PENALTIES                                                                    
                                                                                
  CANCELLATIONS                                                                 
                                                                                
    ANY TIME                                                                    
      CHARGE GBP 250.00 FOR CANCEL/NO-SHOW/REFUND.                              
      WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER.                           
         NOTE -                                                                 
          WAIVERS MUST BE EVIDENCED BY DEATH CERTIFICATE                        
          REFUND PERMITTED BEFORE DEPARTURE IN CASE OF                          
          REJECTION OF VISA. EMBASSY STATEMENT REQUIRED.                        
          ---------------------                                                 
          REFUND RULES APPLY PER PRICING UNIT.                                  
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          ---------------------                                                 
          WHEN COMBINING NON-REFUNDABLE FARES WITH                              
          REFUNDABLE FARES                                                      
          1. THE MOST RESTRICTIVE CANCELLATION CONDITION                        
          APPLIES TO THE ENTIRE PRICING UNIT.                                   
          2. THE HIGHEST CANCELLATION FEE WITHIN THE                            
          PRICING UNIT WILL BE CHARGED.                                         
          ---------------------                                                 
          REFUND FOR PARTLY USED TICKETS-                                       
          IF A RETURN TICKET SHALL BE USED FOR ONE WAY                          
          TRAVEL                                                                
          THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE RETURN FARE AND THE                        
          APPLICABLE                                                            
          ONE WAY FARE IN THE SAME OR HIGHER RBD WILL BE                        
          COLLECTED.                                                            
          UNLESS APPLICABLE OW/RT FARE PLUS TAXES FOR ACTUAL                    
          TRAVEL IS HIGHER THAN WHOLE ORIGINAL TICKET.                          
          IN THIS CASE NO TAX OR FEE REFUND WILL BE                             
          PERMITTED.                                                            
          ---------------------                                                 
          CHILD DISCOUNT DOES NOT APPLY.                                        
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          INFANT WITHOUT SEAT FREE OF CHARGE.                                   
          ---------------------                                                 
          REFUND OF UNUSED TAXES PAID TO THIRD PARTIES                          
          PERMITTED.                                                            
          EXCEPT FOR PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGES APPLICABLE                      
          TO US AIRPORTS                                                        
          WITH TAX CODES- US/ZP/XF ON NON-REFUNDABLE OR                         
          EXPIRED TICKETS.                                                      
          REFUND OF UNUSED YQ PERMITTED.                                        
          REFUND OF UNUSED YR SURCHARGES OF CARRIERS OTHER                      
          THAN LH/LX/OS/SN PERMITTED.                                           
          REFUND OF LH/LX/OS/SN DCC - DISTRIBUTION COST                         
          CHARGE - SHOWN AS YR ON THE TICKET NOT PERMITTED.                     
          ---------------------                                                 
          THE OPTIONAL PAYMENT CHARGE IS NON-REFUNDABLE.                        
          ---------------------                                                 
          REFUND PERMITTED WITHIN TICKET VALILDITY                              
          ---------------------                                                 
          ANY ORIGINAL NON-REFUNDABLE                                           
          AMOUNT FROM A PREVIOUS TICKET REMAINS                                 
          NON REFUNDABLE AND WILL BE CARRIED FORWARD TO ANY                     
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          REISSUED/EXCHANGED TICKET.                                            
                                                                                
  CHANGES                                                                       
                                                                                
    ANY TIME                                                                    
      CHARGE GBP 250.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.                               
      WAIVED FOR DEATH OF FAMILY MEMBER.                                        
         NOTE -                                                                 
          REISSUE/REVALIDATION/EXCHANGE PERMITTED.                              
          -----                                                                 
          REROUTING PERMITTED.                                                  
          -----                                                                 
          WAIVERS MUST BE EVIDENCED BY DEATH CERTIFICATE.                       
          -----                                                                 
          RULES FOR CHANGES APPLY BY FARE                                       
          COMPONENT/DIRECTION. IN CASE OF FARE COMBINATION                      
          CHARGE THE HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE                            
          COMPONENTS.                                                           
          -------                                                               
          CHANGE FEE APPLIES FOR EVERY SINGLE CLOSED                            
          TRANSACTION.                                                          
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          CHILD DISCOUNT DOES NOT APPLY.                                        
          INFANT WITHOUT SEAT FREE OF CHARGE.                                   
          ---------                                                             
          CHANGES NOT PERMITTED IN CASE OF NO SHOW. REFER                       
          TO REFUND SECTION IF APPLICABLE.                                      
          ---------                                                             
          IF CHANGES ARE MADE TO OTHER THAN THE FIRST                           
          TICKETED FLIGHT COUPON THE FARES IN EFFECT AT TIME                    
          OF ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE WILL APPLY PROVIDED THE                      
          NEW ITINERARY QUALIFIES FOR ALL THE PROVISIONS                        
          OF THE ORIGINALLY TICKETED BOOKING CODE FARE                          
          IGNORING ADVANCE RESERVATION OR TICKETING                             
          PROVISIONS PROVIDED CHANGE IS MADE AFTER                              
          DEPARTURE FOR THE RETURN FLIGHT.                                      
          ---------                                                             
          IF CHANGES ARE MADE TO THE FIRST TICKETED FLIGHT                      
          COUPON / TOTALLY UNUSED TICKET / THE FARES IN                         
          EFFECT AT TIME OF REBOOKING/REISSUE WILL APPLY                        
          PROVIDED THE NEW ITINERARY QUALIFIES FOR ALL THE                      
          PROVISIONS OF THE ORIGINALLY TICKETED BOOKING                         
          CODE FARE INCLUDING ADVANCE RESERVATION OR                            
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          TICKETING PROVISIONS.                                                 
          ---------                                                             
          IN CASE OF UPGRADING TO A HIGHER FARE CHARGE THE                      
          APPLICABLE CHANGE FEE AND COLLECT THE FARE                            
          DIFFERENCE. IN CASE OF DOWNGRADING TO A LOWER FARE                    
          CHARGE THE APPLICABLE CHANGE FEE AND CREDIT THE                       
          RESIDUAL AMOUNT.                                                      
          ----------                                                            
          REVALIDATION/REISSUE AND EMD ISSUANCE MUST BE                         
          MADE WITHIN 24 HOURS AFTER CHANGE OF RESERVATION                      
          BUT NOT LATER THAN DEPARTURE OF THE ORIGINAL                          
          FLIGHT BEING CHANGED. IF NOT DONE WITHIN 24 HOURS                     
          TICKET WILL ONLY BE VALID FOR REFUND OR NOT                           
          APPICABLE AT ALL.                                                     
          REFER TO REFUND SECTION IF APPLICABLE.                                
          ----------                                                            
          COMPLETELY UNUSED TICKETS CANNOT BE CHANGED INTO A                    
          TICKET WHERE ORIGINAL ISSUING CARRIER IS NO LONGER                    
          INCLUDED IN THE ITINERARY.                                            
          EXCEPTION- TICKETS ORIGINALLY ISSUED BY LH/LX OR                      
          OS CAN BE REISSUED ON LH/LX OR OS FLIGHTS EVEN IF                     
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          THE ORIGINAL ISSUEING CARRIER IS NO LONGER                            
          INCLUDED IN THE ITINERARY PROVIDED BOTH THE                           
          MARKETING CARRIER //FLIGHT NUMBER// AND OPERATING                     
          CARRIER OF ALL FLIGHTS REMAIN ON LH/LX OR OS.                         
          IN ALL OTHER CASES THE TICKET IS THEN ONLY BE                         
          VALID FOR REFUND. PLS REFER TO REFUND SECTION IF                      
          APPLICABLE.                                                           
          ----------                                                            
          IN CASE OF SUBSEQUENT REISSUE/EXCHANGE-                               
          THE ORIGINAL NON-REFUNDABLE FARE- OR REFUND FEE                       
          AMOUNT REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE.                                        
                                                  PAGE  7/ 7                    
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Interesting is that EDI usually only has one flight to FRA (LH963) and the summer schedule sees a second flight.

Unfortunately the only thing you can do now is hope that the LH flight to BKK is preponed or LH965 is postponed in the next schedule change(highly unlikely).

The fact that there is a hard stop at 11pm in FRA means the BKK flight will not wait for you. It alos means there are no more options that night and you have to be rebooked to the 2pm TG A380 flight the next day.
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