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Old Jan 2, 2017 | 3:32 am
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Originally Posted by pbd456
how many AA SWU would be needed to upgrade? I guess the rule is not really clear when applying to RTW ticket.
The SWU rules are the same for RTWs as for any other kind of revenue ticket. Each SWU is valid for up to three flights, the flights do not have to be contiguous, and you can't backtrack on the same SWU.

Originally Posted by pandaperth
So for instance one could upgrade HKG-DFW-MIA-LHR using one SWU, but not say LHR-LAX-MIA-GRU.
Are you sure that LHR-LAX-MIA-GRU isn't permitted on one SWU? Seems legit to me as there is no backtracking.

Originally Posted by Himeno
Carriers pulled ex CAI fares due to increased bookings on the rapidly falling Egyptian Pound (with some people getting DONE3s for US2800). This is similar to what happened over the last 2 years with fares ex MPM and KRT.
As far as I know, new fares are yet to be loaded.
QR still has ex-CAI fares (e.g., an ex-CAI DONE5 is $2773.45 USD). I don't know if they will sell you one.

Originally Posted by TiredDoc
So what is the tool I use to find the BA flight numbers and how do i convince QR to do it?
Personally, I use ExpertFlyer to find code shares. Just do a "Flight Availability" search for A-B and use the drop-down to select OneWorld. E.g.,:
Results from ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Flight Availability Search
Departing DOH on 02/01/17 12:00 AM for HKG
Flying OneWorld


                                                                     Frequency
Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes
0 Connections
QR 818        0      DOH                HKG                788       Daily           J8 C6 D5 I4 R0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 T9 O4 W4 
                     02/01/17 2:25 AM   02/01/17 2:45 PM             71% / 17m

0 Connections
CX (QR) 9290  0      DOH                HKG                788       Daily           J0 C4 D4 I4 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 
                     02/01/17 2:25 AM   02/01/17 2:45 PM             72% / 17m

0 Connections
QR 816        0      DOH                HKG                788       Daily           J9 C9 D9 I9 R0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 T9 O9 W9 
                     02/01/17 8:35 AM   02/01/17 8:55 PM             76% / 17m

0 Connections
CX (QR) 9200  0      DOH                HKG                788       Daily           J4 C4 D4 I4 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 
                     02/01/17 8:35 AM   02/01/17 8:55 PM             76% / 17m
Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim
Rats, so a potential reprice as well I'm assuming if before first segment flown?
Depends. I've had luck changing the dates of flights other than the first, even when it turned a connection into a stop. My taxes and fees were recalculated, but the ticket wasn't repriced.

Originally Posted by SFO_FT
Any change to the trip prior to departure is supposed to trigger the airline recalculating whether the price is still valid. I'm some cases, if the fare hasn't changed, the issuing agent might choose just to revalidate a segment (i.e., change the flight without reissuing the entire ticket). But, the agent is likely only to do this if the issuing airline is the carrier for which the segment is being changed. The issuing airline is usually not willing to touch a different airlines segments without reissuing.

Adding a stopover is going to trigger a reissue as new taxes need to be collected. And, the underlying e-ticket needs to reflect that a stopover was provided.
Depends what you mean by "whether the price is still valid." You are permitted to make date/time/carrier changes to segments other than the first, before starting the trip, and only pay updated taxes/fees, not a reprice. Airlines will often reissue a ticket for any change, which is fine since reissue is not the same as reprice. Reissuing a ticket is safer than revalidating it. I always make significant date/time/carrier changes to my RTW tickets before flying the first segment, and my tickets are always reissued and never repriced. However, the base fare does still need to be valid, so if you have an ex-CAI ticket, the airline will find it difficult to change your ticket if they withdrew their ex-CAI fare.

Originally Posted by pandaperth
Right at this point in time your wanting to change the first segment of an ex-Egypt itinerary is interesting, because:
  • changing the first segment triggers a reprice at today's fare
  • but currently there is no "today's fare"!! (at least according to ExpertFlyer)
  • so, IMHO, there should be no price increase (but I am certainly no expert in this matter)
I tried to have AA upgrade their segments on an ex-CAI ticket, and the Exec desk told me it was very difficult since AA had withdrawn their ex-CAI fare. They didn't say it couldn't be done, just that they would need to figure out how to do it. I didn't push it because I was going to make date changes to those flights anyway.
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