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Old Dec 25, 2016 | 3:46 pm
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Hello Leo123

Apologies for not replying sooner, but I have had better things to do (see my signature)

As I understand your situation:
  • You purchased your ticket in early August, right at the end of the ex-MPM feeding frenzy
  • You intend to fly your first two flights (MPM-DOH-HEL) and then make big changes to the rest of your ticket
  • At the end, your intention is to not fly back to Africa, but to get off at a transit point in Europe and abandon the last flight

So, assuming the above is correct:
  • The fare rules changed on August 4th, and the restriction on inter-zone flights in conjunction with a second visit to Europe/Middle East was removed – so that is not a problem on your ticket
  • Because you will stopover in Europe/Middle East at the beginning (in HEL) your return visit must be a “transfer without stopover”. So:
    …MLE-xLGW-MRU would certainly be valid
    …MLE-LGW//LHR-CPT would probably be valid, but
    …MLE-xDOH-xLHR-CPT probably would not be valid
    Now IIRC, serfty has managed to get two transfers without stopover approved, but my reading is that “transfers without stopovers” is not the same as “a transfer without stopover” and so what you want should not be allowed. But hey, try it by all means

You can use The Matrix to get an idea of the YQ on various segments

The online tool has not been updated when the fare rules change; in particular, it is hopeless with regard to the provisions for backtracking through Europe/Middle East in conjunction with travel to/from/via Africa. So, don’t try to use it to verify whether your itinerary is valid

Since your intention is to not take the final flight, you should perhaps look at other options in order to minimise the charges you will pay for that last flight. From London you could consider flights to West Africa (such as LOS) or East Africa (such as NBO), which might have lower total charges – again you can use the matrix to investigate this




Originally Posted by Leo123
My trip is coming in couple of months and it`s time to start thinking where to go.

This is what I have been thinking about:
MPM-DOH-HEL-xLHR-LAX-MIA-JFK-NRT-KUL-DPS-HKG-MLE-xDOH-xLHR-CPT

Some thoughts:

-There is direct flight from HEL to MIA but i would like to try AA77w from LHR and i can get AY a350 also from HEL. New CX first lounge is there also that i would love to try (I`am OW Emerald by then). How much you think it is going to raise price by going through LHR versus direct AY HEL-MIA?

-Is that ending from MLE valid? I know there is direct flights from DOH to CPT but i`am going to skip last leg and this way i could end up in London and go there with QR a380 from DOH. But is this backtracking?

I`am still figuring out how to get some nice beach locations there and might go SJU from MIA..

This is DONE ticket so i have gone through routes the way that i could get nice lounges, JAL J class, AA, QX and QR

Edit: More questions about the routes because I cant understand these even if i have read FAQ now 3 times

-Online tool for RTW gives error if i try to start from MPM and replicate my purchased trip. I can put starting point to CPT to avoid error (after that DOH-HEL) but then it says no flights between middle east and europe. But my ticket that have been issued already has MPM-DOH-HEL. Why it says that if i start from CPT and not MPM?

-I was playing with the RTW tool and figuring out would it be better to go around the globe opposite way that i have first thought so I made this routing:
MPM-DOH-HEL-NRT-KUL-DPS-HKG-LAX-MIA-.. and then i thought i had to go back to the Africa for my starting point, but it gives me options to flight LHR for stopover, then BCN for stopover and even back to Helsinki before going back to Africa. I thought i can`t come back to Europe if i have leave there once (i had stopover in DOH and HEL beginning of the trip). What is the rule that I don`t understand? (okey there might be many rules..
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