Originally Posted by
HotelHacker
Here's a video from Gilbarco with some details pertaining to their EMV-enabled equipment. Provided this is still correct, we might start seeing EMV enabled at the gas pump by April 2017.
I know there are other manufacturers out there that might get to it sooner, but I guess we'll see. Can't wait to try it when it comes!
One of the slides seemed to imply that Shell was going to roll out indoor EMV at the same time as the forecourt. Seems like they're progressing a lot more quickly on the former than expected based on what I've seen around here.
However, the others may end up holding off until at least April, which may mean that a lot of gas stations won't make the October 2017 liability shift.
Another concern is that EMV contactless requires a service pack to enable, though it sounds like MSD should be working right now if you're not Shell.
Originally Posted by
HotelHacker
Also I think Chevron is going to be rolling out contactless with their EMV equipment. Not definitive, but from what I've been reading they are interested, they are not an MCX member, and I have seen Chevron pumps with contactless pads. I'll be checking out the new station when it opens to see what it has.
Have you seen any other Chevron stations in the San Diego area with the outdoor contactless readers? I only know of one (Highway 52/Convoy Street) and I've only had success with AmEx when using those. Even in the Bay Area--which is their contactless test market--most Chevrons don't seem to have the readers yet.
Originally Posted by
HotelHacker
Supposedly also, Costco will go contactless at the pump and Costco-branded credit cards will be contactless. The Costco near me does not have EMV or contactless at the pump that I can tell, but I am not a member with them so won't be using it anyway.
The Citi Costco cards definitely have contactless. I actually got a hold of one again today and read both interfaces with cardpeek. The CVM list for the contact interface (red = purchase related entries):
- Fail cardholder verification if this CVM is unsuccessful: Enciphered PIN verified online - If unattended cash
- Fail cardholder verification if this CVM is unsuccessful: Signature (paper) - If manual cash
- Fail cardholder verification if this CVM is unsuccessful: Fail CVM processing - If purchase with cashback
- Fail cardholder verification if this CVM is unsuccessful: Signature (paper) - If terminal supports the CVM
- Fail cardholder verification if this CVM is unsuccessful: No CVM Required - If not attended cash and not manual cash and not purchase with cashback
Offline data authentication also isn't supported. Based on
http://www.spotterswiki.com/emv/index.php there aren't any surprises compared to other Citi Visa cards.
As for contactless, the difference between the Costco card and Apple Pay appears to be more EMV records. For EMV contactless it seems that the Track 2 data's grabbed from the Processing Options, while for MSD contactless it's returned in one of the EMV records. This may explain why the Costco card seems to have issues domestically when tapped. Unfortunately ODA isn't on the contactless interface either so use of the card for transit is probably not going to happen.
Originally Posted by
Delta 764
I wonder whether or not 99 Cents Only Stores plans to introduce EMV. The one we normally shop at still has old Verifone MX830s (non-EMV version). Competitor Dollar Tree has EMV enabled, so I don't see any reason why 99 Cents Only shouldn't introduce EMV. They even have touchscreen NCR registers that I am sure can support EMV by swapping out those old MX830s with some new MX915s with updated software.
Probably stuck in certification like other retailers. They've been on the MC map for a while though so they may enable contactless at the same time once that's resolved.
Originally Posted by
HotelHacker
I think it is the MX915. I'm not an expert at this but it is the same as the big box stores are getting.
Yep, MX915. The MX925 is a lot bigger.