Originally Posted by
Calchas
Sky.is.the.limit thanks for joining us here. However I have a few issues with your answer, I hope you don't mind if I bring them out.
I don't understand why that would be the case.
Both the oneworld explorer and the oneworld global explorer permit the final destination to be in another country.
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D/TRAVEL MAY ORIGINATE AT ANY POINT FOR WHICH
FARES ARE PUBLISHED AND MUST TERMINATE AT THE
SAME POINT EXCEPT THAT ORIGIN- DESTINATION
SURFACE SEGMENTS ARE PERMITTED AS FOLLOW -
A - WITHIN COUNTRY OF ORIGIN
B - WITHIN THE MIDDLE EAST
C - BETWEEN USA AND CANADA
D - BETWEEN HKG AND CHINA
E - BETWEEN MALAYSIA AND SIN
F - WITHIN AFRICA
G - BETWEEN MALDIVES AND SRI LANKA/INDIA
[Note that Egypt is specifically considered to be in the Middle East by an earlier provision.] Is there another provision that enforces a same-country destination in this specific case?
I agree that QR does not have an interline agreement with TN. But why does the itinerary matter to the plating carrier? Every oneworld carrier can issue a oneworld explorer ticket, although QR is not very good at it.
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TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF
AA/AB/AS/AY/BA/CX/EI/FJ/IB/IG/JJ/JL/KA/LA/LP/MH
/QF/QR/RJ/S7/UL/XL/4M
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SELECT A VALIDATING CARRIER WHICH HAS TICKETING
AGREEMENT WITH ALL AIRLINES IN THE ITINERARY.
WHERE INDIVIDUAL AIRLINES DO NOT HAVE A TICKETING
AGREEMENT E-TICKET ISSUE WILL BE SUPPRESSED.
That's from the GLOB fare, the ONE fare doesn't spell it out explicitly, but there's really no reason ever to use QR as a ticketing carrier. BA, AA, JL and CX will be happy to ticket this if you use one of their flights. AA will demand an intercontinental AA sector.
Hi Calchas
Thanks for spotting this,
Re the routing, I agree, O and D may be in different countries but those countries have to be within the same sub-region and that’s not the case here (EG is Africa – JO is middle east). The provision you are referring to (assuming the ones on the first page of the fare sheet) only stands for the counting of stopovers, not for the O and D. I imagine the screenshot you posted came from a GDS or something similar, if you decode the country code you should come up with the same conclusion as me:
EG EGYPT/AFRICA TC2
JO JORDAN/MIDDLE EAST TC2
Re the plating carrier, you’re right all the carriers listed on the fare sheet can potentially issue such fares but it depends on the itinerary as well. If I trust the below rule from the ATPCO, in this specific routing the ticket will have to be on a QR stock
ATPCO validating carrier selection logic:
Round the world
If the itinerary crosses between Traffic Conference (TC) 3 and TC2 and between TC2 and TC1, then the selected validating carrier is the carrier from the first sector that crosses between TC2 and TC1.
http://www.amadeus.com/corp/xml/docu...tion_logic.pdf