Letitride3c, nice. thanks for your perspective. we tend to dump on places and then forget they are actually pretty good....
my wife's cousin says that dim sum in toronto is like the old days in the 70s in hong kong. he says he never gets such gigantic har gow in hong kong like he sees all over the place in markham...
although the ones i had at the 8 in macau shaped like coi fish were pretty sweet!