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Old Sep 18, 2016 | 6:03 pm
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Originally Posted by sdsearch
Each bank not only has different parameters, they may adjust those parameters differently for different people. (Example: Citi cares about how many hard inquiries in 6 months, but whether 6 is the max or 7 or 8 or whatever depends on how they evaluate you. And even for you, it could change between last year and this year and change again next year!)

The banks are not interested in your predicting their parameters. They don't particular want you to churn at all. If you want to churn, you have to realize that you're doing something the banks would prefer you not do, and so they're not likely to help you with clear information.

Meanwhile, while crowd-sourced info may great, it only works well when the parameters don't change from person to person. When they do change from person to person, crowd-sourcing only works well with something tons of people do. But there aren't tons people apply at bank X after doing such-and-such applications in such-and-such a time period at such-and-such banks. The number of parameters is dizzying in that case, and pretty impossible to collect enough fine-grained datapoints (and then for someone to analyze them well) so that they are useful to others.

Please be aware, if you aren't already, that most of the benefits of AORs (App-o-Ramas, applying for lots of cars in a burst and then waiting months and then doing another burst) are dead. (Among other factors: Banks now see a hard pull from another bank within minutes! There's no longer a delay of a day or two, like there was a few years ago.) Most people feel it's better these days to space things out than to try to apply in bursts. If someone insists on continuing to apply in bursts, they'll have more and more resistance from banks yet fewer and fewer datapoints from other people doing the same thing (any more) to guide them.
Thanks for the info! What you said makes sense. For the record, I have not done AORs in recent times. The only time I ever did an AOR was in 2013 and that was I believe at a time when it was still legitimate (I actually got approved for all of the cards I applied for and hardly had any open accounts).

You did spur a thought though. And I know there is no blanket answer for this and many factors probably go into this, but how often is opening a new account too much? What in general is a good guideline to follow?

Side note: I really enjoy your posts in general. You're a very helpful member to this community!
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