Boy is that ever true. I have zero need or desire for 'pampering' --ever-- but I will go to extreme lengths to avoid being tortured.

Everyone should have to post their height and weight when holding forth in this thread

I pay out of pocket for domestic F every time I fly now. I simply cannot fit into coach seats anymore (Norma Desmond had a relevant remark) and on recent DL flights even F was cramped. Flying overseas, it depends on the airline/airplane whether J is adequate or one must pony up for F. Fortunately, we have miles for that, because we certainly don't have the money for it..