Originally Posted by GUWonder
More than a handful of Poles could have choosen to arm themselves and resist and to do such earlier.
Given the fact that Germany had destroyed Poland's army in a very short period, Jewish resistance was doomed to failure. It is true that the Warsaw Ghetto fighters managed to hold off the Nazis for two weeks but the great majority of them also wound up dead.
Originally Posted by GUWonder
Once occupied more than a rare Pole helped send a Jew, a gypsy (or the very, very rare African to a camp where camping as a recreation choice was to be forever gone for most. Many areas within Poland that had Polish jews who were not in the ghettos were outed by their neighbors to gain favor with the occupying force.
Unquestionably true. Polish anti-Semitism was endemic and certainly eased the Nazi's task. However, this has absolutely nothing to do with the original contention that had the Polish Jews spoken out against the Nazis earlier that the Holocaust would have been avoided. Nothing in history indicates that the Germans who supported Hitler would have been influenced by the opinion of Polish Jews.
Originally Posted by GUWonder
Not all the prisoners in Guantanamo were captured in Afghanistan. That may have been the way it was in 2001 and parts of 2002, but it's far from true today. There are some people who were "rounded up". More than a rare "round up" in and outside of Afghanistan has not been involved in either the Taliban or Al-Qaeda proper at all. At least two cases from Afghanistan deal with people who were singled out because another party was upset about unresolved land disputes and were thus suggested "roundees".
I don't know how many non-Taliban internees there are in Guantanamo but given the context of the original argument (which was a discussion of the TSA) it was my understanding that the contention was being made that the round-ups are in the United States (which is where the TSA operates). I don't know of a single person in the US who has been taken to Gitmo (other than Marine guards).