Originally Posted by
vuittonsofstyle
The next Amanresorts? I wonder if this new concept of staying at someone's 'home' will be the next Amanresorts. An Italian entrepreneur owns and operates Villa Treville in Positano and has just brought in ex-Aman François Richli to open a sister 'home' in Phuket
apparently the italian hotelier owner (who bought from opera director Zeffirelli) sold Villa Tre Ville in 2013. seems
vienna-resident stayed before the sale. that italian hotelier still owns (bought from
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Nureyev estate) Li Galli islands. he has rented them as a villa, and also hosts (retreat style) artists - ( fiorucciartrust.com/works/residencies-in-li-galli/ )
sorrentopress.it/giovanni-russo-vende-la-villa-appartenuta-a-zeffirelli-ad-un-magnate-americano/
from press release from buyer >
Jun 16, 2013 ... acquisition of the Villa Tre Ville ... would form part of ... group of international boutique hotels and villas, with other locations under development in Thailand and Japan.
so there may soon be a property in japan as well
Originally Posted by
chinmoylad
Maybe because there isn't much info, but I wonder what the distinguishing factors are for this villa from quite a few similar villas around Phuket. It really doesn't look that appealing.
1 - "ex-Aman François Richli" known to some here. 2 - seems to have small private beach. (
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ph...1!4d98.3380884) 3 - if they book suites in villa, that is less common. they refer to it as hotel and one photo says 6 suites in phase one. 4 - if they book suites and dining/restaurant is not public. IIRC all phuket 'villa hotels' (consisting of pool suites/villas) including those discussed here have public restaurants.
a Palazzo / residence in rome >
residenzanapoleone.com/ (2 'rooms')
residenzaruspolibonaparte.com/ (3 'rooms')
telegraph.co.uk/travel/hotels/europehotels/hotelsinitaly/hotelsinrome/3549448/Residenza-Napoleone-III-Rome-hotel-review.html
Letizia Ruspoli ... divides her time between this home ... and her manager, Beatrice, are women of impeccable taste and happy to recommend and reserve the best dinners in Rome ... Ruspolis have a long tradition of being marvellous hosts. Alexander Dumas, in his novel The Count of Montecristo, indicates the terrace of the Palazzo Ruspoli as the best location from which to watch the Roman carnival.
books.google.com/books?id=RyEEAAAAQAAJ&q=rospoli#v=snippet&q=rospol i%20palace&f=false
He therefore promised Albert that he would content himself the morrow with witnessing the Carnival from the windows of the Rospoli Palace.
residenzaruspolibonaparte.com/source/RUSPOLI_AD.pdf
Beneath Palazzo Ruspoli's walls the Roman carnival reached its frenzied peak.
mrandmrssmith.com/luxury-hotels/residenza-napoleone-iii
I return from a stroll along Via Condotti, past branches of Fendi and Ferragamo, to find a cluster of holidaymakers reading an official information panel outside the Residenza. It explains that the building dates from 1556 and that in the late 16th century it was transformed by its owner, a diplomat for the Medici family, into one of Rome’s grandest residences. It goes on to note a ceiling inspired by the Sistine Chapel, the dozen busts of Roman Emperors that line the corridors, and the staircase with 100 marble steps (‘regarded as one of the marvels of Roman civil architecture’), before regretfully telling readers that, though it sometimes hosts exhibitions, the building is not normally open to the public. At this point, I draw from my pocket a small brass key attached to a green velvet rope. As the tourists look on, I step towards the huge wooden gates that fill the building’s arched stone entrance, open the small door within a door, and go inside.
Eleven Experience (villas so far, 'hotels' coming?)
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post25648600
aforementioned Scarp Ridge Lodge hosts Aston Martin on Ice
(not sure if anyone / any Aston Martin owner can book stay)
Originally Posted by
scented
Really interesting, your post.
It would be quite a good hotel, if general public would be able to book it.
i can't speak for others, but i personally would be fine with situations where owner wanted to speak with me before booking, reserved right to shorten/cancel stays, charged a lot, etc. presumably there are options besides operating as a hotel/B&B/etc which are regulated by local government.
some here might have an interest in properties that were for example: all-children / no-children ; no-partying / all-partying ; or oriented solely around certain activities such as snorkeling/diving, yoga/spa, surfing, sailing, golf, tennis, world class private dining, etc. or architecture/art connoisseurs. in other words to the exclusion of 'other' offerings on property, not catering to multiple interests nor businesses/groups unless a buyout.
going back to amanpuri (why it was built) for example, it may have been that the only reason they built 30/40 'rooms' was that many villa owners did not want to rent out their villas at all. so there was still revenue for operating costs. at FS hualalai, less than a third of the condo/villa owners rent (publicly, not in hotel inventory) and most rentals are condos. i think it is safe to say that both amanpuri and hualalai would still have fans/regulars here if they were residence-only without any hotel rooms. some hotels/resorts consist solely of full ownership residences in hotel inventory. FS, RC, kempinski also manage a few residence-only properties that do not have hotel/rental operations.
originally not hotels / not open to public >
Saxon hotel owner's safari reserve, including Nelson Mandela's residence
in past 11 months, Lalique converted 2 glassworks owners' villas into hotels
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...onghua-cn.html members club became public hotel
IIRC Fasano Boa Vista originally/planned only for guests of residence owners
ex-Fairmont Kenauk was 13-cabin property that began as club : kenauk.com/history/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%A2teau_Montebello ,
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/fairm...ello-sale.html
hotels can also become private. developer of aforementioned Yellowstone Club attempted club that would offer members (only) use of acquired resort properties, including El Tamarindo resort (once GHM) in Mexico and 15 room
wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%A2teau_de_Farcheville. The Point in New York was once acquired by members of a club which intended similar. That club planned to acquire Hotel Endsleigh and 4 other hotels. Both clubs went bankrupt. Some luxury hotels became private residences. A famous/infamous buyer did that with a Long Island hotel in the 1980s. In NZ ( andrewharper.com/articles/view/new-zealand-hotel-and-resort-closures ) >
two New Zealand properties long favored by Andrew Harper members are closing. Mollies...revert to being a private residence...Grasmere Lodge...turn the property into a private home. Grasmere had been delighting Hideaway Report readers since its debut in 1995...Lodge at Paratiho Farms, near Nelson, another Harper favorite, closed in 2009 to become the residence
i recall positive comments here for at least 2 of those if not all 3
not hotels >
Veuve Clicquot has an invitation-only 'hotel' and many other companies have similar not open to public
Natirar Club had members trip to
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%A2teau_de_Balleroy and possibly a trip involving stay at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%A2teau_Haut-Brion