Originally Posted by
cmd320
Oh no doubt, domestic F is complete garbage. That's not specific to AA though, DL and UA, while better, are only slightly so. The only halfway decent domestic F product outside of the premium transcon routes is Virgin America's F product, and that's about to be destroyed by AS. It's all marketing nonsense because in reality, what is marketed as domestic F wouldn't even cut it as a J product elsewhere in the world.
You should compare domestic F to J within Europe. By that measure there is no comparison; every European airline I am aware of has a product that is basically a coach seat with marginally upgraded food. I would take a domestic F seat, even on the worst legacy US airline, in a heartbeat over any of the European options. The only thing of value they offer in the product is lounge access; the hard product is truly a ripoff.
Also both B6 Mint and AA J and F on transcons to/from JFK are great products, easily beating BA CW and VX F.