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Old Jan 6, 2004 | 9:39 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by FWAAA:
My sources confirm that the two Security Directives issued on December 21 to airlines by the TSA do in fact make AA's post-September 11 Paranoia the law of the land for all US airlines. SDF_Traveler's experience this past week appear to reflect the Terrorism Success Administration's new rules.

Security Directives are not publicly disclosed - they will certainly not appear on the TSA website.
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Was the BS I encountered officially a TSA directive as of 12/21? Just curious, as I made several flights on 12/27 and did not experience this new mandate.

However -- A few days later on 12/30 and forward, I've had it on every flight, domestic & Intl, with the exception of a Mesaba Airlines (NW Airlink) flight, which I took yesterday. However, with a Saab 340, it's somewhat difficult to congregate, let alone goto a different cabin

I don't mind the "use the lav in the cabin you are seated in rule" so much, as that has always been the case to protect premium passenger cabins and the premium product.

What really bothers me is that there is to be no standing or congregating, which includes lining up to use the lav's. I take a lot of long-haul flights (6 hrs ++) and this is just bloody ridicilous. If you're on a short flight (under 4-5 hours), it's not so bad -- but once you start passing the 4-5 hour mark, let alone the 7-8 hour+ mark on flights, this is completely unreasonable.

I have many upcoming flights in the 6-9 hr category in addition to a few flights in the 12+ hr category.

On long-haul flights & ultra-long-haul, it's common to queue up to use the lavs (especially in economy) -- additionally, for health reasons, it's good that everyone gets up at some point and walks around, stetches, etc.

Perhaps we should require Loy, Ridge, and company, to make regular ultra-long-haul flights (in economy) just to see how much they enjoy their own mandates. While they're at it, perhaps they can open up their eyes & explore the world outside the USA. Perhaps they might learn something about aviation security (and how it is conducted in other western nations, where terrorism has existed for many years -- professionally and treating passengers with respect).

Flying around Europe on internal European flights is not only a breeze, but a pleasure compared to the BS we now deal with here....

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