<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Fenito:
As a current screener, and private security consultant...I have worked with the program that actually determines selectees....all I can ask is that you understand the process the program uses to determine selectees is far beyond one way tickets...yes one ways can just about promise you a selectee ticket everytime....ask Airtran passengers....but...I've also heard of these trusted passenger programs as well....whats to stop a terrorist from becoming a trusted passenger? Nothing....not trying to start an argument...but being a selectee I know takes a couple of minutes of your time...but please bare with us....Honestly...It should take no more than 5 minutes max to screen a selectee checked bag..unless you're going international and have 70lbs worth of everything walmart sells in your bag....and 5 minutes to get through checkpoint selectee screening. Just offering my 2 cents..</font>
So, when I purchase a round trip ticket 1-2 months in advance from Northwest with an outbound on Northwest (Friday departure) and a return operated by CO (NW codeshare flight) on a Sunday or a Monday (simple weekend trip), I'm considered such a threat that I get "selectee" status? Happens all the time with the above scenario. If I buy NW only segments or CO only segments, no problems. It seems to me CO's computers are so smart they don't realize I'm flying round-trip on a ticket issued by a partner airline that I have elite status with, but instead think I'm trying to fly one way. Not that CO even offers one-way "T" class fares in the markets I fly (typically a K class r/t on NW but CO converts the class code over to T for their purposes). I don't think there are many markets where you can buy K/V class tix on NW "one-way" either as they typically require RT travel, along with adv purchase requirements, etc.
Selectee status only taking 5 minutes? hah.. Only in a perfect world at a small southern airport like GSO I suppose.
I noticed in your other post you talk about a new selectee lane at GSO. Guess what? Other airports like SAN have a selectee lane too -- you know how long one must wait at the selectee lane just to get through the friggin checkpoint for a typical lunchtime departure?
By time time I'm cleared, it typically takes 30 minutes to an hour on some days. I make a point to arrive at least an hour if not 90 minutes prior (for domestic), depending on the station, but there's absolutely no reason I should be standing in a selectee line to get my selectee treatment and it taking *an hour* of my time.
So you say 5 minutes after getting to the front of the selectee line? haha.. ok, so I go through the Arch and don't beep, then end up waiting for a screener to wand me and probe me even though I don't beep (heck, why even have selectees go through the arch when they are probed head-to-toe at the checkpoint anyway - it doesn't seem to matter if you make it through the arch without beeping).
If I'm lucky, 10-15 minutes for the process to be finished after I've stood in the "selectee" line for an extended period of time.
So, I take it the system works so great that a 20-something white male that has elite membership in NW's FF program must get "selecteed" and "checkpoint raped" everytime they purchase a ticket with Credit Card for round-trip travel on Northwest but flights in one direction end up being codeshares on CO metal. Great System!
And no, I don't carry 70 lb luggage let alone "crap" purchased at "WalMart", er Wally/Walton World. I suppose if I had purchased "crap" from Wally World I would not have had to submit a $740 claim the one time the TSA searched my suitcase and re-packed it with someone elses clothing, eh?
As a security professional, can you tell us when the "back-door" problem will be fixed? Between that and scanning cargo (yes, cargo has trusted shipper programs), those are two
major security problems.
Best,
SDF_Traveler
P.S. You've worked on CAPPS? (the program that determines selectees).. So you're a computer programmer and a TSA screener?
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