First posting - QR having biz class sales ex-HK to various european cities, us$2500 via Doha to AMS, MXP, LHR to name a few, can do same day turnaround, approx 18k asiamiles or 180-200points under new system. Book by mid march and travel before mid Dec, Good fares esp as ex HK rather that the usual SE exit points. Hope this is useful