Originally Posted by arsenalman

Thank you. I see there is doubt if we can churn the card anymore. So in the mean time I am going to apply for the citigold and hopefully in a few days we will know if it's dead or not. If it isn't, I'll apply for a MC and close (change to a different card) the Visa (hopefully I can move the cl on to the MC). If it is dead then I can see what's the best way to move fwd.