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Old Feb 8, 16, 7:41 am
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EsherFlyer
 
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Originally Posted by EsherFlyer View Post
Figuring out how we could easily present all the routes, flight numbers and periods of operation would be a challenge.
Here's an attempt to show the routes and some supporting information for multi-segment, single flight number routes. Some of the data may still be wrong (happy to track down oddities if you point them out ). Click the origin station code for a map on Great Circle Mapper.

These are routes that fly from AAA-BBB, but stop at CCC (and maybe DDD as well) on the way before continuing on the same flight number. AAA and BBB are over 2000 miles apart, so if flown on a straight through AAA-CCC-BBB itinerary should collect 210TP in AA First just as if there was a single segment flight AAA-BBB. That's an advantage if the individual segments are less than 2000 miles each, since you would normally only get 60TP + 60TP for AAA-CCC-BBB. But if either AAA-CCC or CCC-BBB is over 2000 miles it causes a problem because you still get the 210TP for the whole route and not 210TP + 60TP for the individual segments.

Important point here is that it is only combined as a single 210TP segment if on the same flight number. Two segments operating the same AAA-CCC-BBB route on different flight numbers will not combine.

You can see if the magic flight is operating on a day you want to travel using ITA Matrix. Select "One way" and enter the start and end locations. Use "Advanced routing codes" to enter "AA" (indicating that you want a single, direct American flight: remember that "direct" flights are allowed to stop, whilst "non-stop" will go from AAA-BBB in a single hop and would be "N:AA" in ITA speak). Then either specify exact dates or use the "Calendar of lowest fares" to find a day that suits you. If the flight is operating in the period that you're searching then you should find that the results include a multi-segment route that has a stopover at the point indicated below, and the same flight number for both segments.

For the multi-segment 2000+ mile directs the list below shows origin, and locations that can be reached via a waypoint. Unpicking the entry for ATL the table the following are candidate routes:
  • ATL-PHX-SEA
  • ATL-CLT-SFO
  • ATL-PHX-SFO

Additionally two font types are used to flag potential risks of using these routes:
  • The orig and / or destination station code is italic if there are any 2000+ mile segments in or out of that location (including from / to locations not listed in this table). You may do better to look for one of those segments plus an additional short hop to make 210TP + 60TP = 270TP.
  • The destination of any segment is bold if that segment is itself over 2000 miles, since in this case you would do better to break the trip onto different flight numbers to get 210TP + 60TP = 270TP.

For example:
  • ATL-PHX-SEA is a clue to look for ATL-XXX-SEA where XXX-SEA is 2000+. You can see those routes in the thread intro posts, and in this case XXX could be MIA or CLT.
  • Sometimes those two indicators roll together to help. ATL-PHX-SFO is the hint to find somewhere other than PHX to connect at, and ATL-CLT-SFO gives you a candidate route with a CLT-SFO 2000+ segment. Just be sure not to book the continuing services...

Routes in plain font such as BOI-PHX-BWI ought to be better candidates for using. Although in that particular case the irritatingly short 1998 mile PHX-BWI leg might be better replaced with PHX-PHL depending on ultimate destination !

Code:
ANC -> PHX-IAH
ATL -> PHX-SEA CLT-SFO PHX-SFO
AUS -> PHX-ANC
BDL -> DFW-SAN
BOI -> PHX-BOS PHX-BWI PHX-DCA
BOS -> PHX-LAS JFK-LAS CLT-PDX PHX-SAN PHL-SAN PHX-SEA ORD-SNA PHX-SNA DFW-SNA
BWI -> PHX-OAK PHX-ONT PHX-RNO PHX-SJC
CLT -> PHX-SNA
DCA -> PHX-HNL PHX-PDX PHX-SAN PHX-SFO PHX-SNA
DTW -> PHX-OAK PHX-SJC PHX-SMF
EWR -> PHX-LAS PHX-OAK PHX-PDX DFW-RNO DFW-SAN PHX-SAN CLT-SEA CLT-SMF
FAT -> DFW-LGA
FLL -> DFW-LAS CLT-LAS PHX-LAS PHL-LAS CLT-LAX CLT-PDX PHX-PDX PHX-SAN ORD-SAN CLT-SEA DFW-SFO PHX-SJC
GEG -> PHX-BOS
HNL -> LAX-MCO
IND -> LAX-ANC PHX-ANC
JFK -> PHX-PDX PHX-SJC PHX-SNA
LAS -> JFK-BOS LAX-BOS CLT-BWI PHL-FLL DFW-MCO CLT-RSW ORD-RSW
LAX -> PHX-FLL CLT-FLL CLT-LGA CLT-PBI
LGA -> CLT-LAS ORD-PHX CLT-PHX DFW-SEA CLT-SEA CLT-SFO ORD-SJC
MCO -> CLT-LAS DFW-LAS PHX-SAN PHX-SEA DFW-SEA CLT-SFO PHL-SFO
MIA -> DFW-ONT DFW-RNO PHX-SNA
OAK -> PHX-ATL PHX-BOS PHX-CMH PHX-DTW PHX-PIT PHX-TPA
OKC -> DFW-HNL
ONT -> PHX-BOS PHX-CLT PHX-DCA PHX-EWR DFW-MIA
ORF -> CLT-SFO
PBI -> CLT-LAX CLT-SFO
PDX -> DFW-FLL PHX-JFK ORD-LGA DFW-LGA
PHX -> CLT-BDL CLT-LGA
PIT -> PHX-LGB PHX-ONT PHX-RNO PHX-SAN
PVD -> CLT-LAS
RDU -> CLT-LAS DFW-SEA CLT-SEA
RNO -> PHX-BOS PHX-FLL PHX-PHL PHX-PIT PHX-TPA
RSW -> CLT-LAX ORD-SFO CLT-SFO ORD-SNA
SAN -> PHX-BOS PHL-BOS ORD-DCA PHX-DCA PHX-MCO DFW-MCO CLT-PBI CLT-PIT
SEA -> PHX-ATL PHX-BOS PHX-CMH PHX-EWR CLT-RDU
SFO -> DFW-ATL CLT-ATL DFW-BDL PHX-DTW CLT-FLL PHX-FLL ORD-LGA DFW-LGA CLT-MCO DFW-MCO PHL-MCO DFW-PBI CLT-RDU CLT-TPA
SJC -> PHX-ATL PHX-BWI DFW-DCA PHX-DTW PHX-FLL ORD-MIA PHX-PIT PHX-TPA
SLC -> PHX-BOS DFW-FLL PHX-FLL CLT-FLL
SMF -> PHX-BWI PHX-CMH PHX-DTW PHX-JFK PHX-TPA
SNA -> DFW-BDL ORD-BOS PHX-BOS DFW-BOS DFW-EWR PHX-EWR PHX-PHL PHX-PIT ORD-RSW
TPA -> DFW-FAT PHX-RNO PHX-SAN PHL-SEA CLT-SFO ORD-SFO PHX-SJC PHX-SMF CLT-SMF PHX-SNA
EDIT: Added 3-segment routes, which start to get a bit marginal as to whether the extra 30TP is best gained this way...
EDIT 2: And there are clearly some oddities cropping up here. AA361 is actually operating SNA-ORD, ORD-LAX and LAX-BOS on dates like 5 MAY, but not a selling route . Silly looking routes have strike-through, although some others also look unlikely to be bookable.

Code:
BDL -> DFW-JFK-SAN
BOS -> DFW-LAX-LAS CLT-PHX-SLC ORD-DFW-SNA
CLT -> AUS-PHX-ANC EWR-PHX-OAK BWI-PHX-OAK JFK-PHX-SNA BOS-PHX-SNA
DCA -> LAS-PHX-PDX LAS-PHX-SNA
FLL -> ORD-PHX-SNA
IAD -> LAX-DFW-SFO
LAS -> PHX-CLT-RDU
LGA -> CLT-PHX-LAX CLT-ATL-PHX CLT-BOS-PHX
MCO -> PHL-PHX-LAS PHL-PHX-PDX PHL-PHX-SFO
MIA -> CUN-PHX-SJC
ONT -> PHX-CLT-MCO PHX-EWR-MIA
PBI -> CLT-PHX-SAN
PHL -> LAX-PHX-GEG
PVD -> CLT-LAS-PHX
RSW -> CLT-PHX-SAN PHL-PHX-SFO
SFO -> PHX-CLT-RSW
SNA -> ORD-LAX-BOS PHX-ORD-CLT
TPA -> CLT-PHX-SAN
And 4-sector:
Code:
BNA -> CLT-AUS-PHX-ANC (AA653)
BOS -> CLT-EWR-PHX-OAK (AA627)
DCA -> CLT-AUS-PHX-ANC (AA653)
EWR -> CLT-JFK-PHX-PDX (AA321)
FLL -> CLT-ATL-PHX-BOI (AA449) CLT-ATL-PHX-SEA (AA603)
JAX -> CLT-AUS-PHX-ANC (AA653)
LAS -> CLT-ORD-PHX-MCO (AA855)
MCO -> CLT-JFK-PHX-LAS (AA608) DCA-CLT-RDU-LAX (AA2063) CLT-BWI-PHX-OAK (AA1974)
MIA -> CLT-DEN-PHX-SEA (AA521) CLT-ORD-PHX-SLC (AA2055) CLT-BOS-PHX-SNA (AA629)
PHL -> CLT-EWR-PHX-OAK (AA627) MCO-CLT-BWI-PHX (AA1974) MIA-CLT-ORD-PHX (AA2055)
RNO -> DFW-MSP-ORD-FLL (AA2570)
SFO -> CLT-RDU-PHL-BDL (AA2073) ORD-LGA-DFW-BOS (AA314) PHX-JFK-CLT-BOS (AA1727)
TPA -> CLT-BOS-PHX-SNA (AA629)

Last edited by EsherFlyer; Mar 4, 16 at 8:15 am Reason: Added italics to 2000+ stations, plus various other
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