I don't know, they are old but I think they are comfortable in J (the main flaw is probably the old IFE). The real problem is if you get them in Y... I normally fly economy but I've managed to avoid the old configuration since a 2011 flight to Boston. Since then my only flight with the old cabins was my MAD-JFK return after Christmas, thankfully an odd occassion when I had used points to book J.