I agree with the 'no kids in first' philosophy and will do about anything to get upper deck Biz class. A mum with a wild yearling girl and tempermental 2 year old boy set my teeth on edge during a 3 hour flight. The yearling girl was boarded as a lap child, making all around her miserable including her mum and brother. She spent most of the flight on the floor. Even when the seat belt sign was on. Mother appeared to be helpless in the situation. No good for anyone.