Originally Posted by FD1971

You missed the most important point, two of the major income streams, Sale and LB and airport subsidies, are eroding fast, so the game will be over soon (by the end of the decade in case of airport subsidies in the EU)



Again, the ME3 are not turning profits and the only routes which might be profitable are trunk routes from Europe to Asia, routes on which they simply benefit from the fact that the EU3 are packed already giving the ME3 the opportunity to charge solid fares as alternative carriers with an inferior product (time is still the factor when it comes to profitable customers...)

Everything else was a major bucket case, ultra long-haul A380 flights from Miami or Dallas are the prime example. Oil has become cheaper, so we might see some profits, money desperately needed to pay off the huge amounts of debt they created while expanding over the last decade(s)



QR is far away from being smart and efficient, however they are comparable to Amazon insofar that they do not allow unions or do not talk to unions and make use of unskilled labour paying low wages…

They were also comparable, because of negative cash flows, simply because the costs of setting up the infrastructure needed to serve customers should not be underestimated.

Maybe, they can harvest the fruits later on, probably more likely for Amazon than QR, but we never know. Same day delivery, A380’s on 8000 mile RT to Mia are expensive…

Disruption is nice, I love to see it happening, but do not underestimate the incumbents, who know how to play the game

Just to be safe here, playing the game equals turning profits constantly and in a modern world it also means paying decent wages, paying for social and health insurance.

I do not see that happening for quite some time at Uber, Tesla, QR etc.