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Old Dec 9, 2015 | 12:36 am
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Originally Posted by CGRA
Few corrections:
OK, let's do it!

- Caprice is only a 2 michelin stars for few years and this is still overrated ( but the cheese is nice and the view as well)
Caprice was downgraded from 3 to 2 stars. I got the date wrong for our visit. We dined in Jan 2013. It was downgraded later that year. http://blogs.wsj.com/scene/2013/12/0...n-restaurants/

- One of the two tasting menu at Bernardin is only the regular menu plus one dish (price is similar anyway) so it's just marketing ... . after a few times you know what you prefer and you can choose but a tasting menu is usually a good introduction to the chef leftover , sorry chef cuisine.
OK...but not sure what that has to do with its Michelin 3 stars.

If you want to try seafood, La Palme d'or in Cannes is a different league (despite the chef has an "interesting" personnality)
If I'm ever in Cannes, I'll consider that. Thought Cannes is not one of those destinations I'm likely to visit soon. Not my kinda scene.

- Amber : yes they're able to source some white truffles, can't remember if they're from alba or from other parts of Italy .
Make me think of "Les Tablettes" where the chef put truffle on numerous dishes to make it feel "luxury" but the taste is not there (not sure if he still do that)
Regardless, it was a divine meal with superb food, creative combinations, and extraordinary wine pairings...and spectacular service.

- Yes Michelin guide does adapt to local markets,
---- otherwise NONE of the NY 3 stars restaurants will have 3 stars (maybe Brooklyn .. as I have not been there).
---- otherwise NONE of the Japan / NY / HK restaurants counter style restaurants will have 2 or 3 stars in France. The only exception in France is Robuchon because it's Mr Robuchon.
I'd say Michelin has adapted in a few places in a few circumstances. But I don't believe they've adapted much at all--those are all restaurants with more French style service than others. I present Noma to you as evidence that Michelin only goes so far...and IMO isn't remotely far enough. The Michelin guide is entitled to whatever biases it wants...but too much bias will simply cause more diners (myself included) to look beyond Michelin when they don't get the job done.

The newer diners are not like the Michelin diners of old...even in Europe. There's a reason there now are Michelin 2-3 star restaurants (even in Europe, and even in Paris) which don't require a jacket, whereas that was a rarity only a decade ago. The younger customer base is more casual, and Michelin fine dining has had to adapt a bit. But not enough. The fact that there is no dress code at Noma must infuriate Michelin raters because it dares that in Europe...but even I got away with no jacket at Guy Savoy and Alinea (but made my request and was confirmed in advance).
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