Originally Posted by
RichMSN
There's no thin skin. We had similar issues years ago, addressed them with a motion that we felt solved the problem, and moved on.
Agree, and I was on TB during that timeframe.
Originally Posted by
tcook052
I recall when a TB member was removed for dereliction of their duties and it was done without any of the vitriol seen in recent times so it is possible to hold members responsible for their actions or inaction without "going negative".
The snark factor has been quite evident recently and all I'm saying is I don't believe it needed to be to still accomplish things.
Agree 100%.
Originally Posted by
bdschobel
Neglecting your own duties is a far cry from preventing other people from performing theirs. .
Bruce
Oh puhleeze. No TB member can prevent another TB member from performing their duty. To say otherwise is just silly. And your comment about welcoming constructive criticism is a bit off, as you've just doubled down & continued to go after one TB member over & over.
My question is - what if someone gets elected also does something you don't like or drags it out (although this motion takes care of the dragging it out part)? Will we see the same behavior & public attacks? As someone who likes & respects you so much it's pained me to see you get into it this year & just double down. Quite frankly, on the public sniping, there are a few TB members who need to look into the mirror & ask themselves how it helped TB & FT. (answer: it didn't).
Originally Posted by
dchristiva
To dissuade the behavior that's occurred in the past in the hope that we can work to moving forward together. The constant "holding up of the process" doesn't do anyone any good. Yes, the recent TB action should eliminate the impact, but the message about trying to work together rather than lurking in the shadows and being a bystander needs to be delivered.
As mentioned before, we had someone a few years ago who did something similar. A motion got passed then - as it has now been done again.
We did it w/o the snarkiness exhibited in the public forum this year. Trying to publicly take on a TB member on a personal level (re: of frustration), especially when it's against the TB guidelines, did not reflect well on TB this year, especially when it was done under the guise of well the members need to know.
The members don't actually give too patooties about the inner workings of TB or if a forum gets created at day 6 or day 14. Would it be nice to have it done sooner? Sure. Will the FT world fall apart if it doesn't? Absolutely not.
Does public bickering & attacks ever really get someone to change their behavior or just make them dig in themselves?
BTW - I say that as someone who was extremely irritated/frustrated w/ the TB member who delayed things this year, but who also knows that a prior TB had a similar situation & dealt with it with a lot more class than this year.
On a final note I'll leave you w/ this because I am so sick & tired of the fact, both as a regular FTer & a TB candidate, that TB sniping has overtaken both TB & the election process, but I'm not posting on it again in this thread or the election thread re: the topic. You can argue amongst yourselves/have the last word/whatever. I'm quoting myself below from Q3 in the TB election questions:
"I'd like to remind everyone that the question was actually: "Do you see yourself as a person who is capable of standing above such (ie, snark, bickering)? In what way can you contribute to a friendlier and more tolerant FlyerTalk?" And not about a specific individual, especially since TB membership changes each year. Top down thinking.
I also think the horse has been beaten to death/the dog has gnawed through its bone entirely/fill in the appropriate metaphor re: this year's snarkiness & particular individuals - and that we move on, whether that be the individual or the ones who like to keep banging on & on about an individual. And focus on working together on future issues in a civil manner. Both TB & FT would benefit from it."
Cheers. Sharon