headphones considered a carry-on?
330CiC
Posts: 138
From: Austin TX, AA EXP, DL GM, Hilton Diamond
Registered: Oct 2000 posted 02-24-2002 08:01 AM
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Travelling MIA to DFW on Friday. Had my usual rollerboard, laptop and Bose noise reducing headphones (which are in their own small case). I do this every week and have never had a problem...until this week.
Going thru security was told that only 1 carryon plus laptop was allowed. The headphones counted as a carryon so something would have to be checked.
Told them that they were $300 headphones and I could jam them into my laptop bag, but I did not want to risk damaging them.
Security told me that I had to put them in the bag just to go thru the screening, then I was free to remove them.
So I reluctantly jammed them into the laptop bag (which had a bit more room since I had already taken the computer itself out), went thru screening, then took headphones out and replaced computer. Everyone was happy.
Meanwhile behind me was a lady that had just done some shopping in the airport and had a purse and 2 large shopping bags. No problem, she went right through (same security person).
I think this is getting a bit out of hand...
SteveH
Jakester
Posts: 28
From: Chicago, Il. USA
Registered: Jan 2002 posted 02-24-2002 08:17 AM
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They should have confiscated your headphones.
NoStressHere
Posts: 1619
From: From Southeast, MM, PM,FC and fly too much me thinks
Registered: Nov 2000 posted 02-24-2002 08:50 AM
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The rules are one carryon plus one personal. Get with the program. If you have items like headphones, put them in laptop, rollon bag or whatever, or even in your jacket pocket - if you have it. Plan on the rules being enforced, and you avoid the confrontation. After all, they WILL win. Not worth it.
As to someone else getting through with an extra bag... so what!? That excuse or argument will not help your case at all.
[This message has been edited by NoStressHere (edited 02-24-2002).]
330CiC
Posts: 138
From: Austin TX, AA EXP, DL GM, Hilton Diamond
Registered: Oct 2000 posted 02-24-2002 09:05 AM
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Originally posted by NoStressHere:
The rules are one carryon plus one personal. Get with the program. If you have items like headphones, put them in laptop, rollon bag or whatever, or even in your jacket pocket - if you have it.
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I agree with you except for 2 things:
1. I fly 2-3 times a week with the same "load" and this is the first time anyone has ever given me a problem about the head phones.
2. The person behind me had 3 "items" and was not given the same treatment that I was.
SteveH
dingo
Posts: 867
From: Charlotte, NC USA
Registered: Sep 1999 posted 02-24-2002 09:28 AM
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Originally posted by 330CiC:
I agree with you except for 2 things:
1. I fly 2-3 times a week with the same "load" and this is the first time anyone has ever given me a problem about the head phones.
2. The person behind me had 3 "items" and was not given the same treatment that I was.
SteveH
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1. Irrelevant. Consider yourself lucky to have not had the policies/rules applied to you.
2. Oh well. Guess life isn't "fair"...
The rules are pretty clear to me...I've not seen an "except for headphones or other small items in their own case..." clause anywhere.
I do the same thing with a projector that I carry w/ me. For security, it goes into my other bag. On the plane, it comes out and goes under my seat primarily so it won't get broken. I really don't think you have much to complain about and in fact if I were in line behind you it would have made me pretty upset.
pynchonesque
Posts: 958
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Registered: Feb 2001 posted 02-24-2002 10:06 AM
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330CiC,
Don't you understand that we're in a period of national crisis? Don't you understand that heightened security means you should leave dangerous items like headphones at home?
As for me, I keep my Boses hidden well in the recesses of my carryon bag during the "security screening," which is also where I place my wallet and cellphone. I think I have some notion of what one of the fringe benefits is of being a "security screener," and I don't want my stuff to be a target. (flame away, security-lovers, flame away!)
aamilesslave
Posts: 133
From: Carrollton, TX, USA
Registered: Apr 2001 posted 02-24-2002 10:26 AM
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I have seen an ID checker at DFW screening have international connecting pax go to the counter to check another bag b/c they had a bag of duty-free from the international flight.
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Originally posted by 330CiC:
Meanwhile behind me was a lady that had just done some shopping in the airport and had a purse and 2 large shopping bags. No problem, she went right through (same security person).
I think this is getting a bit out of hand...
SteveH
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mikey1003
Posts: 775
From: CVG, 3MM, PM, FC if any of that matters! Hilton Diamond, HI Platinum and everything else under the sun!
Registered: Oct 2000 posted 02-24-2002 10:30 AM
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OBL has won
GregLeg
Posts: 39
From: Pittsburgh, PA ~ US Silver
Registered: Oct 2001 posted 02-24-2002 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by dingo:
2. Oh well. Guess life isn't "fair"...
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The original point, which I agree with, is that the rules SHOULD be applied across the board. The woman carrying 3 items should have been made to check one, period. Yes, life isn't fair, but rules like airport security must be applied equally.
B747-437B
Posts: 1996
From: ATL / BOM
Registered: Aug 2000 posted 02-24-2002 12:35 PM
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Technically, if you carry your jacket in your hand as opposed to wearing it, it counts as one of your carry-on items.
I have seen an America West pilot harassed by security personnel who insisted that he CHECK either his uniform jacket or uniform cap since they constituted 2 personal items.
Tomphot
Posts: 703
From: Atlanta, GA DL PM MM HH Diamond
Registered: Jan 2000 posted 02-24-2002 12:47 PM
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I think it was in a WSJ article about this mess when they interviewed a lady who always has a huge parka with her so she can load it up with stuff to get around this rule.
ranles
Posts: 1238
From: Downey CA USA
Registered: posted 02-24-2002 12:57 PM
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WOW I agree with the group...therefore, to be devils advocate...what if you wear you headphones, sort of like a jacket, or a hat?
My next trip will include backpack (camera, meds, travel docs-lots) two large straw hats (inserted into each other) and worn on my head. Wearing a jean jacket. I will also have a smallish carry on with cosmetic kits (2) and some modest clothes changes (t-shirt, underw. and socks for my wife and I.
My wife will be wearing a sweater and have a tiny backpack/purse which she will probably carry.
I count two for me and one for her. At worst, she will carry the small carry on. She does not like the hats, but wears them in Australia, Hawaii or the Carribean.
I believe this is within the rules and spirit of the new program.
Rssrsvp
Posts: 1525
From: NYC, DL GM, AA Gold
Registered: Sep 2000 posted 02-24-2002 02:31 PM
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330CiC, when you are dealing with idiots, think like one. Next time put the headphones around your neck and fold the carrying case inside your laptop bag.
SameerUCLA
Posts: 67
From: Los Angeles, CA; temporarily in Pensacola Beach, FL; no, I have NO elite status in ANYTHING yet - but working on AA Lifetime GLD!
Registered: Dec 2001 posted 02-24-2002 02:34 PM
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Stupid security tricks... I was in ATL today wearing a sweatshirt around my waist. Was ordered to put the sweatshirt on the scanner belt. I should have just put it on instead.
That having been said, security seems to be moving faster with the Feds running the show than NotSoBright - I noticed a definite improvement at both ATL and LAX over the past couple of weeks.
- Sameer
B747-437B
Posts: 1996
From: ATL / BOM
Registered: Aug 2000 posted 02-24-2002 02:51 PM
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Originally posted by SameerUCLA:
Was ordered to put the sweatshirt on the scanner belt. I should have just put it on instead.
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The ATL screeners don't allow you to put it on, and they also count it towards your personal item limit. You have to either pack the item, or check it.
RB5000
Posts: 22
From: Allentown, PA
Registered: Feb 2002 posted 02-24-2002 02:53 PM
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Could you have worn your headphones. That way it's an article of clothing.
Aruging is a risky move. They will never budge. You could also get arrested as a threat to national security! You could hire a lawyer and fly back to that city and eventually win. Security knows that this would be a form of punishment in itself.
I read an article and also have seen people stuffing their pockets so that they can empty a shopping bag and get under the limit.
The strictest limit seems to be in Australia and the UK where they limit the weight of carryon to ?7 kg.
UAL Traveler
Posts: 1478
From: EWR and BKK; UA MP:1K, TG ROP:Gold
Registered: Oct 2000 posted 02-24-2002 03:21 PM
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Simply a good reason to check out the shirtpocket-sized Sony NC-10's
dbaker
Posts: 1053
From: AUS - (Presidents Club & Gate 16)
Registered: Mar 2001 posted 02-24-2002 03:37 PM
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My bose headphones travel just fine in my briefcase.
afang
Posts: 3509
From: Plano,Texas USA
Registered: Jul 2000 posted 02-24-2002 03:39 PM
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Originally posted by UAL Traveler:
Simply a good reason to check out the shirtpocket-sized Sony NC-10's
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Ditto! NC-10s are wonderfully compact!
dingo
Posts: 867
From: Charlotte, NC USA
Registered: Sep 1999 posted 02-24-2002 06:01 PM
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Originally posted by GregLeg:
The original point, which I agree with, is that the rules SHOULD be applied across the board. The woman carrying 3 items should have been made to check one, period. Yes, life isn't fair, but rules like airport security must be applied equally.
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I agree that the rules should be applied consistently. Reality is that no rule is applied consistently. And, I think part of his original point is that he had been able to do it numerous times in the past.
ParadoxII
Posts: 10
From:
Registered: Feb 2002 posted 02-25-2002 09:18 AM
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Originally posted by 330CiC:
Travelling MIA to DFW on Friday. Had my usual rollerboard, laptop and Bose noise reducing headphones (which are in their own small case). I do this every week and have never had a problem...until this week.
Going thru security was told that only 1 carryon plus laptop was allowed. The headphones counted as a carryon so something would have to be checked.
Told them that they were $300 headphones and I could jam them into my laptop bag, but I did not want to risk damaging them.
Security told me that I had to put them in the bag just to go thru the screening, then I was free to remove them.
So I reluctantly jammed them into the laptop bag (which had a bit more room since I had already taken the computer itself out), went thru screening, then took headphones out and replaced computer. Everyone was happy.
Meanwhile behind me was a lady that had just done some shopping in the airport and had a purse and 2 large shopping bags. No problem, she went right through (same security person).
I think this is getting a bit out of hand...
SteveH
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How could they call your headphones a carry on?
That would make me mad
Maybe you should have asked the lady behind you to put them into one of her bags.
But then she would be carrying something given to her by someone else.
Gald it all worked out.
Have a great day, Everyone
Otis
Posts: 17
From: Chicago
Registered: Aug 2001 posted 02-25-2002 09:54 AM
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I carry my Bose headphones in the carrying pouch that has the clip strap. I clip the strap to the carrying strap for my bag and it looks like an integral part of the bag. It goes right through the conveyer belt. I also put my CD player in the other side of the pouch.
I have not had any problem with it (yet), even in MIA. It sounds like you had one of those super vigilant security guards who made up a rule as he went along.
pynchonesque
Posts: 958
From:
Registered: Feb 2001 posted 02-25-2002 10:56 AM
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Paradox,
Apparently you are a subscriber to the theory that a joke gets funnier every time you retell it. Please. Enough.
dingo
Posts: 867
From: Charlotte, NC USA
Registered: Sep 1999 posted 02-25-2002 12:40 PM
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ParadoxII, that is the most real estate for fewest words I've seen!